dabber Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 5-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 5-2 now, World Cup Winners x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Stunning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Spain want to scrap not only Catalonians but our England boys now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 FA need to find a way to nurture our young lads and not coach the talent out of them as we see year on year with the seniors. Very impressive winning two world cups this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The problem not over coaching but that their club teams aren't giving them the changes to break through into the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, 1of4 said: The problem not over coaching but that their club teams aren't giving them the changes to break through into the first team. That’s largely because once a player turns 21, his athletic ability comes second to technical ability. English youngsters have an abundace of athletic ability, they can overpower their rivals at a young age. But once you’re 21, a technical player will always trump an athletic player. We’ve seen it time and again, even here at Derby. Miles Addison was a beast until everyone else caught up and overtook him on technical ability. Players like Darren Bent used to score bucketloads as a youth when his pace and power just overrawed defenders. How many of the current England youth players actually possess natural technical ability? Very few I’d imagine. Jack Wilshere is probably the most gifted English player in the past decade IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hull City were dreadful. Have 2 clubs been relegated from the PL then both drop into Div 1 the following season? Hull & Sunderland look definite candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: That’s largely because once a player turns 21, his athletic ability comes second to technical ability. English youngsters have an abundace of athletic ability, they can overpower their rivals at a young age. But once you’re 21, a technical player will always trump an athletic player. We’ve seen it time and again, even here at Derby. Miles Addison was a beast until everyone else caught up and overtook him on technical ability. Players like Darren Bent used to score bucketloads as a youth when his pace and power just overrawed defenders. How many of the current England youth players actually possess natural technical ability? Very few I’d imagine. Jack Wilshere is probably the most gifted English player in the past decade IMO Read somewhere recently, a number of German coaches think that the best young players with the most technical ability now come from England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: That’s largely because once a player turns 21, his athletic ability comes second to technical ability. English youngsters have an abundace of athletic ability, they can overpower their rivals at a young age. But once you’re 21, a technical player will always trump an athletic player. We’ve seen it time and again, even here at Derby. Miles Addison was a beast until everyone else caught up and overtook him on technical ability. Players like Darren Bent used to score bucketloads as a youth when his pace and power just overrawed defenders. How many of the current England youth players actually possess natural technical ability? Very few I’d imagine. Jack Wilshere is probably the most gifted English player in the past decade IMO Harry Kane? Dele alli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Congratulations to the young guns of U17 England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Harry Kane? Dele alli? I wouldn't call either a technical player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: I wouldn't call either a technical player. You really wouldn’t call dele Alli a technical player?! What are they then, cause they sure as hell as miles better than jack wilshere in every aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: That’s largely because once a player turns 21, his athletic ability comes second to technical ability. English youngsters have an abundace of athletic ability, they can overpower their rivals at a young age. But once you’re 21, a technical player will always trump an athletic player. We’ve seen it time and again, even here at Derby. Miles Addison was a beast until everyone else caught up and overtook him on technical ability. Players like Darren Bent used to score bucketloads as a youth when his pace and power just overrawed defenders. How many of the current England youth players actually possess natural technical ability? Very few I’d imagine. Jack Wilshere is probably the most gifted English player in the past decade IMO bolleaux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: You really wouldn’t call dele Alli a technical player?! What are they then, cause they sure as hell as miles better than jack wilshere in every aspect You are wrong on this. Technically, Wilshere is superb and had it not been for some dreadful injuries he would have been an automatic choice for England. ,Kane is a superb natural finisher - Dele Alli still has lots to prove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Just now, Wolfie20 said: You are wrong on this. Technically, Wilshere is superb and had it not been for some dreadful injuries he would have been an automatic choice for England. ,Kane is a superb natural finisher - Dele Alli still has lots to prove Not convinced myself, I rated wilshere but not as much as I rate Alli now. He’s still young but to say he isn’t as good as wilshere is just plain wrong, wilshere was all potential just like Alli is, but didn’t go as far to showing it as Alli has done. Dont think you can say Kane isn’t a technical player as well, certainly as far as they go for centre forwards. He’s more than just goals, he’s the complete forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: You are wrong on this. Technically, Wilshere is superb and had it not been for some dreadful injuries he would have been an automatic choice for England. ,Kane is a superb natural finisher - Dele Alli still has lots to prove 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: Not convinced myself, I rated wilshere but not as much as I rate Alli now. He’s still young but to say he isn’t as good as wilshere is just plain wrong, wilshere was all potential just like Alli is, but didn’t go as far to showing it as Alli has done. Dont think you can say Kane isn’t a technical player as well, certainly as far as they go for centre forwards. He’s more than just goals, he’s the complete forward. All three supremely talented players, you don't need to play like Xavi to be an outstanding footballer. Kane and Alli do rely more on physical attributes but have a great blend of technical skill, otherwise they wouldn't have reached the heights in the Premier League that they have. Just need to do it on a competitive international stage now. As for Wilshere, he's got so much ability and I just hope he can replicate his form of a few years ago. He certainly seems to be picking up some momentum, which is great to see. I'll always remember his performances against Brasil and Barcelona, which showed he can do it on the big stage. Would love to see him as the first name on the teamsheet for England if he can properly get over his injury problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Millenniumram said: You really wouldn’t call dele Alli a technical player?! What are they then, cause they sure as hell as miles better than jack wilshere in every aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Honestly believe that by 17 you’re as intelligent and technical as you ever will be. It’s all about learning tactically and improving physically from that point onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I see Brum have finally found good use for those poxy clapper things.. Throw them on the pitch.. Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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