sage Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 hour ago, 90sRam said: People having a go at Olsson for the first goal but I think it was hard for him. Having played full back I know it can be very difficult to defend those situations. Get too close and risk bringing the man down in the box, let him cut inside on his weaker foot but with a clear shot on or force him down the line with the hope of blocking the cross. Olsson did number three but didn't manage to block the cross. This is where you hope your defender and keeper are positioned to block any ball coming across the 6yr box so the player has to pull his cross away from goal to reach one of his own. Makes it easier to defend as a team. Unfortunately the ball went between Carson and Pearce and then some ball watching allowed Ayite free. That goal highlighted something they had which we lacked. Full backs with attacking intent. Similar to QPR with Perch getting forward, I felt we miss Christie and Forsyth's desire to run at players and look for a one-two down the line. At the moment it means we can be a bit narrow in attack and aren't getting as many 2 on 1 situations out wide. All in all, very happy with the point. We looked a bit tired and Fulham have been in great form. Great to see us come back after going 2-1 down. A lot of sides would've crumbled against this Fulham side in that scenario. Plenty to work on and also a good reality check to those talking of catching Brighton/Newcastle. He let 4 similar crosses into the box in the first half. It was an accident waiting to happen. He isnt good enough for a top 6 team. Luckily we are 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Alpha said: The players would boo us Nah they'd love. Especially when we followed it up with 'Trapped in the Wardrobe', a 30min opera about living without Martin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Just got back from the game. Had a great day out. Few beers in a pub before the game, nice walk by the Thames to the ground and a great atmosphere. I think the team looked tired. We lost the midfield battle, I thought Scott Parker ran the show. In the second half especially we played too deep and invited them to come at us. But we kept going and got the point we probably didn't deserve. Having said that if the ref had played advantage in injury time we could have come back with all 3.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Great day out that! It's Steve McClaren woah, it's Steve McClaren wooooaaah wooah woah oh oh oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 hour ago, 90sRam said: People having a go at Olsson for the first goal but I think it was hard for him. Having played full back I know it can be very difficult to defend those situations. Get too close and risk bringing the man down in the box, let him cut inside on his weaker foot but with a clear shot on or force him down the line with the hope of blocking the cross. Olsson did number three but didn't manage to block the cross. This is where you hope your defender and keeper are positioned to block any ball coming across the 6yr box so the player has to pull his cross away from goal to reach one of his own. Makes it easier to defend as a team. Unfortunately the ball went between Carson and Pearce and then some ball watching allowed Ayite free. That goal highlighted something they had which we lacked. Full backs with attacking intent. Similar to QPR with Perch getting forward, I felt we miss Christie and Forsyth's desire to run at players and look for a one-two down the line. At the moment it means we can be a bit narrow in attack and aren't getting as many 2 on 1 situations out wide. All in all, very happy with the point. We looked a bit tired and Fulham have been in great form. Great to see us come back after going 2-1 down. A lot of sides would've crumbled against this Fulham side in that scenario. Plenty to work on and also a good reality check to those talking of catching Brighton/Newcastle. He was equally at fault for the second. Instead of clearing it in to row Z, he passed it straight to their player who then put it in the net...I think Lowe is much more capable defensively.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: He was equally at fault for the second. Instead of clearing it in to row Z, he passed it straight to their player who then put it in the net...I think Lowe is much more capable defensively.... Sure, but he's not fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Do you know what lame excuse ref had about denying bent foul he blew his whistle to late that is a loud of bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eargasm Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Well not as fit as Naga Munchetty....... Ooppps..... sorry, wrong forum ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Roboram said: Oh Steve mcClaren, oh Steve mcClaren & Powell, Powell oh oh oh oh etc I think the words are "with Steve mcclaren, with Steve mcclaren we'll go up, up up up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 6 hours ago, Alpha said: derby on Sunday, away on Wednesday and Fulham on Satdee 7 points isn't too bad at all. Bet it's been a hard week but to come through it unbeaten is great Craig David??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 hours ago, 90sRam said: People having a go at Olsson for the first goal but I think it was hard for him. Having played full back I know it can be very difficult to defend those situations. Get too close and risk bringing the man down in the box, let him cut inside on his weaker foot but with a clear shot on or force him down the line with the hope of blocking the cross. Olsson did number three but didn't manage to block the cross. This is where you hope your defender and keeper are positioned to block any ball coming across the 6yr box so the player has to pull his cross away from goal to reach one of his own. Makes it easier to defend as a team. Unfortunately the ball went between Carson and Pearce and then some ball watching allowed Ayite free. That goal highlighted something they had which we lacked. Full backs with attacking intent. Similar to QPR with Perch getting forward, I felt we miss Christie and Forsyth's desire to run at players and look for a one-two down the line. At the moment it means we can be a bit narrow in attack and aren't getting as many 2 on 1 situations out wide. All in all, very happy with the point. We looked a bit tired and Fulham have been in great form. Great to see us come back after going 2-1 down. A lot of sides would've crumbled against this Fulham side in that scenario. Plenty to work on and also a good reality check to those talking of catching Brighton/Newcastle. I agree with you that Fulham 's full backs attacked well but also as a former left full back, when you show your player the outside you NEVER let them cross, you put yourself between them and your goal. Olsson was at fault. However, it was a tough battle and we did well to get a point against a team that passed and retained the ball far better than us Special credit to Pearce, Carson and Baird. Ince the only creative spark though Camara was lively. The ref cost us with the Johnson incident but a draw was fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 What were the ref mistakes referred to? Nothing shown on the sky highlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 17 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: What were the ref mistakes referred to? Nothing shown on the sky highlights Few minutes from the end Johnson tackled a defender on the half way line. Having lost the ball, the defender tried to pull him back. BJ used his strength to struggle free and with Bent was two on one bearing down on goal when the ref called it back for the foul. Cue Rams Wrath! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, PistoldPete2 said: What were the ref mistakes referred to? Nothing shown on the sky highlights The main one was BJ getting pulled down when through on goal. BJ recovered then the ref pulled play back to book the Fulham player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCDowd Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On radio derby they were fuming said the Fulham player wasn't even booked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, DCFCDowd said: On radio derby they were fuming said the Fulham player wasn't even booked He did but I think we would have had a far better chance if play had been waved on than the free kick we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramz64 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 For me , This was the game I had to see us win if I was to believe we could do top two and the autos We didn't . I now think we are play offs .. at best . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramz64 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Brighton and Newcastle are off into the sunset .. This is the game if we were gonna have any hope of catching them we should have won .. We are play offs .. at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Play offs seemed a long way off 10 games ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Really enjoyed the day and it was a very entertaining game. Definitely a point gained as the first 20 mins of the second half particularly we spent a long time chasing shadows. Very impressed with Fulham, who knocked the ball around well and attacked with great intensity down the flanks. Won't be many who take points from Craven Cottage if they play like that every home game. Fair play to Derby as we didn't play that well, couldn't hold the ball long enough and resorted to too much long ball to Vydra because we were under so much pressure. But we hung in there, battled really hard and grabbed a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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