kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 If we can get him back we absolutely should...with bent being injured,we need the back up of a proven striker in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Towards the end of martins time here i wasnt his biggest fan. If anything i thought he was part of the problem and was glad when he went so we could freshen things up. I thought his performances (admittedly everyone was rubbish under pearson) didnt warrant him to be a guarenteed starter and i felt we were a bit one dimensional towards the end with him in the side & as a team we'd lost our way however he has started scoring at fulham & he may feel that he wants to come back to work under mac again. Maybe in a roundabout way if he does return then the loan to fulham might have freshened him up and if we do get him back then we get the player capable of scoring 20+ goals a season and not the 'donkey' he'd turned into. I say that tongue in cheek & we can allargur that it might havd been down to formations and tactics etc as it stands im happy either way, im happy with the way were playing under mac and i think playoffs is now a realistic goal we've 100% turned a corner but at the same time im happy to see him return in jan, he might be the difference in a playoff final & i think as daft as it sounds this loan stint could have benifited him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Listening to the Fulham end on the radio he missed a lot of chances today but he did score two and should have scored six but totally dominated third in the league Reading. If we can get better then fair enough but I doubt it so we should be trying to get him back as we need his type in the mac system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Mixed feelings .. A one goal in two games striker AND consistently so. ...It's hard not to want him i still have this nagging sense that his style made us one dimensional .. Allbeit a dimension that worked 6/10 times. Under Mac2 we seem to have more variety and options. I also wonder if the break up of the Hendrick Bryson duet might mean that the system wouldn't quite have the shine it had. .. At this point I'd honestly prefer to see us shaping Vydra into our system as he seems such a pacy natural ball player but I am not going to be anti Martin because his record is undeniable. jury out in jono land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Did Chris M score as many league goals today as both Vydra and Bent have for us all season? Still the most baffling piece of transfer business I can ever remember at Derby. And I remember getting Ian Wilson in on loan. And we've paid £8odd million for the privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, Mick Harford said: Did Chris M score as many league goals today as both Vydra and Bent have for us all season? Still the most baffling piece of transfer business I can ever remember at Derby. And I remember getting Ian Wilson in on loan. And we've paid £8odd million for the privilege. Vydra over priced yes but a good player, anya decent squad member but very over priced Pearson just making a statement and stuff the consequences- thank you, I am sure we currently can't get better than Martin and there are not many about who can do his role in our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
California Ram. Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 anyone know if he's allowed to play us when we're away in Fulham in a couple of weeks ? (because if he is, then we all know what's going to happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, singaporeram said: anyone know if he's allowed to play us when we're away in Fulham in a couple of weeks ? (because if he is, then we all know what's going to happen) No he can't while we own him, so don't sell him in January either for the reverse fixture or the play offs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I think today proved we do need another option up top. That's not a dig at Vydra as he ran himself ragged today and had lumps kicked out of him especially in the 1st half. With Bent injured we needed an option to freshen it up in the 2nd half. Come on Mel, get them removal men rang . There is a wardrobe needs bringing home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth's left foot Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 One of the players he mentioned at Hearts is a forward (who scored today along with another of the targets) so SM is looking at the front positions. I would love CM back here but if he's at Fulham until the summer then I think SM will buy somebody else in January and we won't see him in a Rams shirt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=56821.0 Just sharing the Cottagers opinions. Thats Cottagers not cottaging,I think they are differentm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 17 hours ago, Dordogne_Ram said: Another two goals for him again today....... Woo hoo! ->>> $$$$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 43 minutes ago, Ninos said: Woo hoo! ->>> $$$$$$$$$$$ Lol. So how much will it cost US to get someone better? Or are you rating Blackman!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. So how much will it cost US to get someone better? Or are you rating Blackman!? 1 pence ... or maybe 2 pence after Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 6 hours ago, Ninos said: Woo hoo! ->>> $$$$$$$$$$$ Very strange comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Is that any word that Martin actually wants to stay or come back to us? Surely someone on here has their ear to the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Is that any word that Martin actually wants to stay or come back to us? Surely someone on here has their ear to the ground? I think I prefer not to hear 'gossip', I hope he comes back, but I think he might want to stay...so la la la I'm not listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Sounds as if he has had some up and down performances. Nephew went to their V Rotherham game .. Said he was pretty anonymous and missed a penalty. Still I am glad he won't be playing against us. It's going to be very interesting how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Ideal for us...martin not doing spectacularly well but proving he can still score to us,Fulham below us in the table,mac back with us and we are flying...all in all it may suit everyone including Chris,for him to come back to us in January..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Controversial but I don't think we should bring him back. If he did it would ruin the balance of the team. Martin was pretty poor without midfield runners, if we still had Hendrick and a younger Bryson then maybe I would consider it but not now with this more dynamic and less predictable front 3. Ince is in very good form atm and I'm suggest bringing Martin back would make him lose that form because they don't suit each other's game. Ince likes people who stretch the game to give him more space whereas him and Martin got in each other's space a number of times last season. It's no surprise that his record is great when playing with Bent. I think all of the midfield 3 benefit from the front 3 being more mobile too.So for me the 2 options are: 1) either bring back Martin but having to buy another box to box midfielder in the mould of Bryson whilst also dropping Ince or 2) Buy a new striker and sell Martin, whilst keeping Ince in the team. You may agree or disagree, it's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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