davenportram Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 never refer to McMinn as a legend. He hasn't got one. has he had both cut off then? thought he had one left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Awarding 'Legend' status is always a personal thing - there are no absolutes, and everyone is never going to agree. For my dad, it was always Leuty, Stamps and Harrison - it took him a long time to include Hector et al in their company. I never thought of Ted McMinn as a 'real' legend - but today I was chatting to a Rangers fan and his wife who are staying at the same hotel as us in Blackpool - and to him he is an absolute worship the ground he walks on legend - and I'm beginning to warm to the idea.We may not all agree as to what constitutes a legend, but when it comes to certain players like Hector for instance and today nobody in their right mind would argue against his legendary status. Heck, i became a Derby fan because of the guy and the style of football Derby played. Like Mostyn i would put Saunders there too and Paulo Wanchope for his legendary stride and memorably humiliating Man U, but i guess i won't include my favorite Derby player Asanovic because of his short time here, yet i maintain that he was the most skillful player to wear a Derby shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Talking value here, legend or not we surely would be asking 15 maybe 18 million for him. A striker who consistently scores goals, just coming to his peak years and contributes to virtually every attacking play. The sale of Gray in the summer surely puts CMs price up big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 best Shackellworst WardWrong on both.Neither are defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Wrong on both.Neither are defenders.JohnsonSammon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 JohnsonSammonYes (12:2) and No. Was a loan player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yes (12:2) and No. Was a loan player.Ibe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Ibe?No, think more lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 No, think more lightweight.Lingard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 LingardYep. Think it was 1:11 which is awful but not really that surprising.Mascarell's was actually really good. Won more than double the amount he lost. Not quite Johnson good though, the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 JohnsonSammonThat is what I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Worth more to us than anyone would pay.If he does go, we should get a good price and you kind of feel PC would work out a solution better than SMc ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Both have four headed goals each over the last two seasons, though Fletcher has played less games and is undoubtedly against better defenders.Moreover, Sunderland have put in 817 crosses whereas Derby have put in 1,201, giving Martin far more opportunities.And one last one - Fletcher has won 107 and lost 135 of his aerial duels, whereas Martin has won 102 and lost 133.I'd give it to Fletch, marginally from a statistical point of view.Going more advanced on the crossing stats - do you know what percentage/number of those crosses were played on the floor/below waist height in comparison to those in the air/above chest height?Martin has been the focal point of our attack for the majority of his 118 appearances for us, leading to the rest of the team knowing that his strength does not lie in balls played into the box for him to head in, rather balls to his feet.I suspect that Sunderland don't have such a clear strategy, and that statistics for headed goals against crosses played are somewhat inconclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 So it's just more amazing stats to be found for the iron man Brad ... Makes Seth look like the sugar plum fairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 never refer to McMinn as a legend. He hasn't got one. ....to stand on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 My Prediction :-DERBY COUNTY TO BEAT FLORIST AWAY ON TV AND TO BE TOP OF THE TABLE ON 6TH NOVEMBER 2015Perfect time to do it as we play on friday 6th before the other teams, notwithstanding the hope that we will be top before then, which would be even better. Brighton have to drop five points to let us get past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Do I take it we don't want to drop Martin for Bent anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 My Prediction :- DERBY COUNTY TO BEAT FLORIST AWAY ON TV AND TO BE TOP OF THE TABLE ON 6TH NOVEMBER 2015 Perfect time to do it as we play on friday 6th before the other teams, notwithstanding the hope that we will be top before then, which would be even better. Brighton have to drop five points to let us get past them. Move over Nostradamus, Rampage is on the rampage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 All you need to do is look at the way the club talk about him, Clement saying he is key to our good performance on the weekend and the best striker in the division. Even if (and I don't think they would) consider selling Martin, in world where Andre Grey is worth £9 million odd Martin has to be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteroseram Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 CM is a smart guy who demands very high standards from his team mate, which is why he likes the responsibility we give him, so no chance he'd go to a club where everyone in football knows there is a massive drinking culture and he'd have no responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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