Tombo Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 For me, we've just got to look like contenders in the top 6 for the first season. Play the right way, attack the opposition, get into the race. If we fall short, then the next year is when we push on.I do think we overachieved a little bit in 13/14, but this past season we underachieved a bit. I think we're a top 6 team but we're not nailed on champions elect like people thought last season. When you consider that there may be new tactics needed and players needing to adapt, I'd take 6th. But we're capable of beating anyone in this league anytime and anywhere so the sky is the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Top six or he’s toast.It’s been seven seasons in the second tier for this board, and they aren’t getting any younger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 He has the team. it may not be his team but we know that it is a team capable of challenging in this league.I would hate to think that we have to go through yet another long and lengthy rebuilding process.I'm sorry Daveo, but there is simply no way that our board would be giving somebody that type of contract if they were expecting him to have to build his team.Clement must be thinking his lucky stars at the opportunity he has been presented with. A team full of players who are more than capable with very little tinkering to do.All they require is a decent shape, he needs to learn his best eleven and to make sure he has a plan B.If we are not in the premiership within 2 seasons at the very most, I would expect he'll receive his marching orders.2 seasons and in the Premier League works for me, gives him 2 full summers to work on the squad. I wasn't thinking 4 seasons with a major rebuild, just lowered expectations for his first season and not to get the sack if we don't finish top 6.Reading through this thread already seeing fans expecting top 6 at least, I'm going to enjoy the season and expect nothing, I did that in McClaren's first season which made it more enjoyable and I don't think I was alone which is what made the atmosphere around the club so special compared to last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I am happy if he just makes us less predictable in the way we play, and explains to a certain member of the defence that if he is to keep his place in the team / club, then he needs to play on his feet and not his botty!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 My expectations are that he will begin by rebuilding the confidence of our existing players as that will take us three quarters of the way to promotion.Next to coach the best football possible out of those players.Then to assess where there is still a problem (i.e. not good enough) and make the tough decision to replace those players.Attractive attacking football along the way would hopefully be inevitable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Derby fans will always moan and complain but will usually stick by the manager until the wheels have come off or there’s clear evidence of incompetence. Other than social media bunnies with axes to grind, we’re generally supportive and prepared to give managers a chance.It’s the board that are looking more impatient these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I'm like the leader of the Green Party surrounded by Labour voters that want everything regardless of the financial implications and they want it all now!Sure I'll get a few votes but my voice won't be heard above the boo's if we are not top by Septemberwot, you suffering from "brain fade" anorl...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 If hasn't played eight different systems in the first three games he may as well quit. He must also publicly denounce Keogh as a competent centre back within the first four hours of managing us or he will never be successful. And he must sign Drogba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Expectations are three-fold- we will have fewer examples of abject away displays such as Boro, Leeds, Fulham where we didn't seem motivated or tactically aware- we will be able to discern at least 2 discrete formations/styles and observe a degree of comfort in each that stops us talking about "no plan B"- he will be straightforward and direct in his dealings and utterances outside of the team environment so we do not get the repeat of the hysterical semantic dissection of every word that we have had in the past few weeks and monthsGet all that right, the feelgood for the team comes back, which transmits to the fans and voila! successful results. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I would be devastated if the doesn't give me a few good reasons to moan about.On the other hand, I'm expecting us to win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 This team at some point had multiple clean sheets and 5 points clear. IMO He'll get top two this season. Top 6 i'll be happy. To be fair top 10 1st season might not be that bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Any one else expect him to bring in his own team captain?(Not an attack on Keogh, I do think on his day he's our best CB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 He's been brought in to get us promotion. This time next year we should be promoted or we move on to the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 WIth all expectations of him taking us in to the premiership with a squad capable of competing in that division.I cannot imagine he will not be appointing his own coaching staff. With a view to making some early signings so that the team can be bedded in for the new season,unless particular players are made available on loan or signing I would expect the most significant changes will occur within our defence.Dont see Keogh remaining as captain or having a future with the club should we make changes.As a captain think he needs to shoulder some responsibility for the poor performances put in during the last part of the season and dispite being forever committed has shown lacking at times . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale The Ram Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Just read an article where he states he is aiming for top 2...Shot himself in the foot for the half fans who expect we will (and should) be 1st all season comfortably.I say anything top half is good anything below is ok and avoiding relegation as bad.Top 6 was the aim last season, I say top 6 with top 8 as a good year due to new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Just read an article where he states he is aiming for top 2...Shot himself in the foot for the half fans who expect we will (and should) be 1st all season comfortably.I say anything top half is good anything below is ok and avoiding relegation as bad.Top 6 was the aim last season, I say top 6 with top 8 as a good year due to new coach.Come on after the past two seasons we're surely not in a position where we'd classify 12th as a good season? I am lowering expectations for Clement as opposed to if Steve was here but I still expect play-offs as minimum this season. We have to players to get there, so it's a question of how good our coach is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Come on after the past two seasons we're surely not in a position where we'd classify 12th as a good season? I am lowering expectations for Clement as opposed to if Steve was here but I still expect play-offs as minimum this season. We have to players to get there, so it's a question of how good our coach is.Exactly. If Watford can change managers 4 times in a season and still finish top 2 and Norwich can change manager half way through the season and win the play offs, surely we can expect Clement to at least make the play offs with us. He's going to be one of, if not the highest paid manager in the league, has one of the best squads at his disposal, will probably have one of the largest budgets to sign players and has a full pre season to implement his style into the players. I personally would be really disappointed if we didn't even make the play offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Exactly. If Watford can change managers 4 times in a season and still finish top 2 and Norwich can change manager half way through the season and win the play offs, surely we can expect Clement to at least make the play offs with us. He's going to be one of, if not the highest paid managers in the league and has one of the best squads at his disposal, will probably have one of the largest budgets to sign players and has a full pre season to implement his style into the players. I personally would be really disappointed if we didn't even make the play offsIf we don't make the play-offs I doubt he'll be gone but some fans would turn against him already. I dread to think how most to react if we had Dale's idea of a good season in 12th, or god forbid an ok season by finishing somewhere between 13th-17th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If a manager gets sacked after finishing 8th, then top 6 finish is par, top 2 should be the aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The expectations will depend on how much flexibility he is given in the transfer market. Few people would doubt that we need a couple of additions, especially in defence. It is very hard to know what to expect of Clement now, it being is his first management job and we don't know what players he will bring in during the summer. But as he has said himself, the Premier League is clearly the target. So regardless of the manager, you've got to say, we should be looking at a top 6 finish at least. It won't be easy for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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