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    thelovebelow got a reaction from Kathcairns in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    This is precisely the reason the club mentioned covid in their statement about admin. They also made a point of saying it would have been profitable had it not been for lock down. 
    300k is a risk worth taking. Call me naive but I think the club have a case. Would we be in admin without it? I don't think so. 
    Not sure how brave the Efl would be halving it with the outcries from other clubs led by gibson
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from bimmerman in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    Yeah, call us a cab will ya? 
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from Foxy Ram in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    This is precisely the reason the club mentioned covid in their statement about admin. They also made a point of saying it would have been profitable had it not been for lock down. 
    300k is a risk worth taking. Call me naive but I think the club have a case. Would we be in admin without it? I don't think so. 
    Not sure how brave the Efl would be halving it with the outcries from other clubs led by gibson
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from Kathcairns in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    Yeah, call us a cab will ya? 
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    thelovebelow reacted to Comrade 86 in Who would you like as new DCFC owner?   
    He murders people? I thought Ashley just stuck them all on zero-hours contracts!
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    thelovebelow reacted to Minneapolis Town Tractor in Who would you like as new DCFC owner?   
    I saw an item on one of our fourms where Marcus Evans may throw his hat in the ring to take over at your club.    Listen up and do whatever you can to ensure this never takes place.    Evans may be a businessman, he may have involvement or control within other aspects of industry but has never, and can never, hope to succeed within ownership of a 'football' team.
    His 14 years with us came at a heavy price.   Took the club name down to third league status for first time in some half a century, appointed one crap manager name after another, time and time again, did not invest in new players  and never spoke out or was seen to be seen when the fans really needed help at it's most.    At times it seemed he just didn't care.
    Was kept in place with us for far more years than what was necessary.  Came on board after Sheepshanks in 2007 and was expected to steer the club back to something achieving, but took the club in the opposite direction.    Fans were overjoyed when he finally left in the summer although some were thankful for his services.
    Don't allow Derby County to follow this route, forewarned is forearmed.    It looks like we'll be playing you again next season and while i'm looking forward to it and wish it once again at higher level, do whatever you can to make sure Evans is not coming back to Portman Road when you make the trip over and do the right thing, hire someone else to take ownership.    Mike Ashley too, can't really speak for that name but realize he has amounted a lot of hostility and anger with previous clubs he's been involved at.  
     
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from Ram-Alf in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    Yeah, call us a cab will ya? 
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from rammieib in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    This is precisely the reason the club mentioned covid in their statement about admin. They also made a point of saying it would have been profitable had it not been for lock down. 
    300k is a risk worth taking. Call me naive but I think the club have a case. Would we be in admin without it? I don't think so. 
    Not sure how brave the Efl would be halving it with the outcries from other clubs led by gibson
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from hintonsboots in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    This is precisely the reason the club mentioned covid in their statement about admin. They also made a point of saying it would have been profitable had it not been for lock down. 
    300k is a risk worth taking. Call me naive but I think the club have a case. Would we be in admin without it? I don't think so. 
    Not sure how brave the Efl would be halving it with the outcries from other clubs led by gibson
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from Philmycock in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    This is precisely the reason the club mentioned covid in their statement about admin. They also made a point of saying it would have been profitable had it not been for lock down. 
    300k is a risk worth taking. Call me naive but I think the club have a case. Would we be in admin without it? I don't think so. 
    Not sure how brave the Efl would be halving it with the outcries from other clubs led by gibson
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from r_wilcockson in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    This is precisely the reason the club mentioned covid in their statement about admin. They also made a point of saying it would have been profitable had it not been for lock down. 
    300k is a risk worth taking. Call me naive but I think the club have a case. Would we be in admin without it? I don't think so. 
    Not sure how brave the Efl would be halving it with the outcries from other clubs led by gibson
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from DCFC1388 in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    This is precisely the reason the club mentioned covid in their statement about admin. They also made a point of saying it would have been profitable had it not been for lock down. 
    300k is a risk worth taking. Call me naive but I think the club have a case. Would we be in admin without it? I don't think so. 
    Not sure how brave the Efl would be halving it with the outcries from other clubs led by gibson
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    thelovebelow reacted to Crewton in Derby finally accept 21 point deduction.   
    The argument for reducing the points deduction, rather than claiming it should be withdrawn completely, is precisely because it's accepted that Covid wasn't the only factor, but it was the one that tipped the club into insolvency. It isn't hard to understand that losing 2/3rds of the club's revenue would have a devastating effect if replacement funding wasn't forthcoming. 
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    thelovebelow reacted to TigerTedd in Recovering 21pts: is it possible?   
    When we’re thinking about points deductions, we’re thinking optimistically that 12pts is recoverable. But 21pts, no chance. Statistically 12pts has never been done before, we’d be making history just to overturn that deficit, so there’s no chance we could do 21pts.
    So I just assumed that getting an extra 21pts on top of a what we need for safety must be something akin to automatic promotion form. Like the gulf between relegation and promotion must be something like 20pts right?
    So I took a look at last seasons table. We survived by a point on 44pts. And extra 21pts would have put us on 65pts, just ahead of Boro in 10th.
    the season prior was a bit more high scoring.  The safety mark was 48 (Barnsley had 49, but I think it’s safe to assume that if we’re on at least mid table form, then our goal difference should be better than everyone else in the relegation zone). Another 21pts would take us to 69pts which would be 8th, just above Millwall. 
    so it’s not that ridiculous to think, if we keep doing what we’re doing, we could be on form for a 10th to 8th place finish. Especially as we’re currently playing without a bunch of our best players (CKR, Bielik) so you’d hope we’d have better form throughout the season, not worse. 
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    thelovebelow reacted to sage in Sheffield United v Derby County match day thread   
    Once again the Devil farts in our face. 
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    thelovebelow reacted to Carl Sagan in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    Here we are, administrators in, massive points deduction, an estimated £50m or whatever in debt, unable to pay wages. And then we read in the Teesside Gazette that Steve Gibson is suing Derby County. https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-Derby-rooney-mel-morris-21660410
    His gripe is that Mel sold the stadium to another of Mel's companies (accepted as OK by the League because not every club owns their stadium and you can't force a club to) and that Derby loaned Matt Clarke when Gibson wanted him to go to Middlesbrough.
    Of course claims such as these are manifestly absurd and would normally be laughed out of court. But the problem is it's inconceivable that the Derby Administrators can also afford to pay lawyers to fight the Middlesboro Chairman. Equally, it's inconceivable that Derby could afford any additional fines the courts might impose.
    The sole purpose of this can only be to ensure the end of Derby County as a football club. Nothing less. The entire football world including honest Middlesbrough fans should be outraged by this behaviour and condemn it in the strongest possible terms. The club can't afford to fight this, so it's up to us fans to shame Gibson into stopping this despicable course of action.
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    thelovebelow reacted to Tombo in Simon Jordan   
    One failed football chairman who lead his club into administration leaps to the defence of another failed football chairman who lead his club into administration
    Colour me surprised.
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    thelovebelow reacted to WestKentRam in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Received this email from the club an hour after it went into administration.
    TBH I don't think I'm that likely to recommend Derby County to my family and friends at present, as they don't have several 10s of £M to burn through.
    There doesn't seem to be a -12 option on the scale they offer.

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    thelovebelow reacted to hintonsboots in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    Only 15 points off the play offs and 9 off safety. Wazza can do it. COYR

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    thelovebelow reacted to Ewe Ram in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I understood that interview, I’m glad I listened without prejudging what was said. I feel a lot of fans wouldn’t accept anything he said whatever. Which I think is incredibly sad. 
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    thelovebelow reacted to IslandExile in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    Those slamming Mel should pause for a moment to think about his intentions.
    I do not - for a minute - think he's intended to run the club down.
    He has spent millions, not to run the club into debt, but to chase the dream. We all supported that chase.
    Even though he's managed things badly, which he admits, I do believe that he genuinely thinks the only way he can get new owners in is to put the club into administration.
    I'm very far from happy about that, actually been crying about it, but I think it's sincere on his part.
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    thelovebelow reacted to Yani P in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I get the feeling he knows a buyer will come in quickly now..
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    thelovebelow reacted to IslandExile in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    I think a lot commenting on here have already made their mind up.
    I'm not happy myself, however, I'd ask people to at least keep an open mind.
    It's not implausible to think that potential buyers are waiting for administration because their costs would be so much less.
    I agree staff and supporters will suffer but this may actually be the only way to get the new owners that everyone craves.
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    thelovebelow reacted to AGR in Mel Morris interview on Radio Derby 1pm   
    Whilst I hate him, he does have a point on the amortisation policy 
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    thelovebelow got a reaction from kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong in New owners   
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