BOB BIGGS

Oh Heck, now I am ?ing myself at the reality of that?

As you say, never in danger of relegation with Nigel?

Let's rewrite history and pretend the lad's the root cause of all our woes. That way we can post a load of spiteful bolarks at the same time as completely ignoring the service he's given the club. Yeah, he had a shocker, yeah, maybe his time is done, I've said myself that I think his legs are gone, but let's show a bit of class and respect because he's earned that much, at very least.

Magnificent servant to the club, the dedication he’s given us over the past 9 years couldn’t ever be undone in one game.

I wouldn’t argue with that. Like Cocu and Rooney, he inherited a squad that needed vast improvement. I think McLaren, Mark 1, and Rowett had slightly better squads to work with. Lampard, with his 3 loanees, probably had the best set of individuals.
It’s probably just my take on things but I never fancied us to get through those games, even the QPR game, which was one of the most disappointing afternoons I’ve ever had at a football match. After the sending off, I presumed QPR would kick the ball over the stand for another 30 minutes and then sneak it on penalties. Perhaps my glass is always half empty - but in defence,  I have been supporting since 1963?
 

Final positions in the 20/21 Prediction League updated on 9/5/2021 to yet another dramatic conclusion..
 
PREMIERSHIP
gfs1ram    68 ----------CHAMPION
Cisse    67 ------------ RUNNER UP
jimtastic56    63
Rampage    59
chewbacca    56
r4derby    55
BodminRam    54
gccrowdpleaser    54
Mick Brolly    52
ColonelBlimp    50
JarodyDCFC    50
rammieib    48
Topram    48
BOB BIGGS    47
LeedsCityRam    47
Mckram    47
timlondinium    47
Woodley Ram    47
dcfc the 1 4me    46
rynny    46
 
Championship

Saul    45
DCFC1388    44
Jimbo Ram    44
SKHunter    42
harwich ram    41
Kamikaze    41
Wolfie    41
ramant62    40
TheHospitalier    38
Amberram    37
Dethorn    37
Marriott Ram99    37
Rampant    37
FindernRam    36
ilsonram12    36
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta    36
StevenageRam    36
TimRam    36
Van der MoodHoover    36
Jourdan    35
WharfedaleRam    35
1967Ram    34
dabber    33
Jase116    33
 
Div1

mozza    33
Premier ram    33
RadioactiveWaste    33
Half Fan Half Biscuit    32
Malty    32
RamNut    32
Will Hughes Hair    32
BarrowRam    30
Brammie Steve    30
Carnero    30
cstand    30
BramcoteRam84    29
DesertRam    29
Turk Thrust    29
Asanovic70    28
hintonsboots    28
lukedcfc    28
PendineRam    28
Rich84    27
Roboram    27
Steve How Hard?    27
ziggyram59    27
angieram    26
Beetroot    26
 
Div2

CBRammette    26
Dordogne-Ram    26
Ramsamwidge    25
Wolfie20    25
Kenavo    24
ram1964    24
SKRam    24
TexasRam    24
BriggRam    23
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong    23
OohMartWright    23
Abu Derby    22
archram    22
ramit    22
BucksRam    21
europia    21
Old Sawley Popside    21
Rample    21
sheeponacid    21
Yani P    21
86 Hair Islands    20
Lurky    20
Mos_Ram    20
swansea ram    19
 
Div3

Ted McMinn Football Genius    19
True Ram    19
Mucker1884    18
StarterForTen    18
bucktwo    17
Elgin_Ram    17
jimbo jones    17
Keepyuppy    17
MidWalesRam    17
BathRam72    16
Chris_Martin    16
Rab a dab doo    16
StrawHillRam    16
Xlor    16
JustOneBiblicalKazim    15
REDCAR    14
samwcave    14
superzak    14
Jayram    13
Dean_Saunders    12
Wistaston Ram    12
admira    11
CumbriaRam    11
DCFClks    11
 
Div4

irobinson    11
ViewsFromTheMiddle    11
Kernow    10
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa    10
Robert Earnshws Workrate    10
Slaapwekkend P    10
BuckoBeast    9
EraniosSocks    9
Finch    9
Foxy Ram    9
jcidaho    9
LazloW    9
TomTom92    9
uttoxram75    9
WhiteHorseRam    9
Ambitious    8
Black ('n'White) Sheep    8
Gisby    8
ImARam2    8
RamDotFi    8
Simmo's left foot    8
Addingham Ram    7
NG2Ram    7
rusgb    7
 
Div5

Shaftesbury Street    7
dantheram    6
Eddie    6
Justa    6
Theres's Only Wan Chope    6
Turnstile    6
JMC    5
Sfox1993    5
bimmerman    4
BrudeRAM    4
Diego    4
Eargasm    4
HonitonRam    4
jono    4
minesahartington    4
neil62uk    4
papa_lazarou    4
Simon Bradley    4
StevoRam    4
SWRam    4
twinkletoes    4
AGR    3
atherstoneram    3
66DegreesNorth    3
 
Div6

dcfcreece1601    3
DerbyRam!    3
dilkie    3
Donegal Ram    3
eccles the ram    3
erathirea    3
Gee SCREAMER !!    3
Grimbeard    3
Gritty    3
Ghost of Clough    3
Hathersage Ram    3
King Ramses lll    3
Monty    3
oohmarkwright    3
oldtimeram    3
Ratpackram    3
Sparkle    3
The Scarlet Pimpernel    3
Anag Ram    2
Anna    2
B4ev6is    2
Cocu_Doodle_Do    2
DarkFruitsRam7    2
dingleram    2
 
Div7

Eaststander7    2
England Ram    2
Ellafella    2
Fla Ram    2
FunkyRam    2
JAT    2
KBRam    2
LeBarbe    2
Leeds Ram    2
leroyoftherovers    2
MickD    2
mr kia    2
Mostyn6    2
MK-Ram    2
Nick_Ram    2
1of4    2
Raving    2
richinspain    2
Saturn5    2
Scott129    2
Shipley Ram    2
Sinistra ram rousse    2
Tyler Durden    2
VulcanRam    2
 
Div8

BBG83    1
Bearwood Ram    1
BirkdaleRam    1
Blondest Goat    1
Bobthesock    1
ck-    1
Coconut    1
Dean Saunders hat trick    1
Derbytom    1
EtoileSportiveDeDerby    1
Gaspode    1
GeneralRam    1
GenBr    1
gravyboat    1
Gritstone Ram    1
joooools    1
Jram    1
kevinhectoring    1
LeedsRam1999    1
lrm14    1
Mafiabob    1
MackworthRamIsGod    1
mrdave85    1
NottsRammy    1
 
Non-League

one_chop    1
OUTSIDER    1
Ramley Apple    1
Remy the hare    1
r_wilcockson    1
Tiverton Ram    1
YouRams    1
 
 
Final Placings..
 
 
 Congratulations @gfs1ram on winning the whole darn thing in the very last minute, commiserations to @Cisse who has led for a good while this season, only to blow it at the very last hurdle.
Thanks to all participants,
HAVE A GOOD SUMMER !!
 

It's about time the young players were cut some slack - Buchanan, Bird and Knight are still only 20 and Sibley 19. You mention Hendrick and Hughes - we knew Will was a special talent, at least at Championship level - but they were 24 and 22 before getting their 'big' moves - who knows what level our youngsters will be at in 4 years time.
They have just had to endure a fight against relegation which would have tested the most seasoned professionals let alone those with very little experience - what a horrendous season in which to try and be fully integrated into the Clubs'senior squad.
One of the saving graces about having no fans in the ground is at least, with things going wrong, the boo boys are kept at bay.

LEARN to read.??...wow, you do have a certain way. Although I see you say it’s not a dig at Clough, it didn’t take you long to raise it. On today of all days when most of us are just relieved we have stayed in the Championship. Can’t see why it matters so much to you. 

LEARN to read.??...wow, you do have a certain way. Although I see you say it’s not a dig at Clough, it didn’t take you long to raise it. On today of all days when most of us are just relieved we have stayed in the Championship. Can’t see why it matters so much to you. 

As you say, never in danger of relegation with Nigel?

As you say, never in danger of relegation with Nigel?

To be fair to Rooney, we’re one place higher than we were when he took over. 

Lack of leaders on the pitch. Normally in any group you tend to get a few who are vocal, people who lead and encourage, doesn't matter who the captain is, there's normally two or three who lead from the front.
Without Bielik and Curtis Davies we appear to lack that natural leadership. While players like Shinnie, Knight, Clarke, Byrne even, give everything physically, they are not vocal leaders, the type of characters you want to be constantly giving orders, possibly CKR is in that category but ideally you need two or three further back giving it some vocals, whether encouragement or orders, we seem very quiet.
The players are possibly not the worst technically, certainly no worse than many we've seen over the years but seem rudderless and incapable of making decisions themselves.
I mentioned it after the match yesterday, but the 5 minute period where Swansea won the game started with Joz passing a 5 yard ball 2 yards behind the player it was intended for straight into touch.
At that point, the natural leaders are required to bolster the team, keep the spirits up, arm round Joz, all that kind of stuff.
I get the impression they are all expecting someone else to do it. 
Jake Buxton and Richard Keogh would have the same bunch of players safe in mid table. We've probably missed Curtis Davies as much as Bielik for his leadership.

Okay, posts that are critical of Mel Morris' tenure as owner are not taken down.
Posts which contain personal insults of Mel Morris are.
The same applies to other previous or future owners, players, other posters.
How difficult is it to grasp the difference? Quite difficult for some people judging by the number of posts we have taken down in the last twenty four hours.
If in any doubt please re-read the terms and conditions that you agreed to when you joined the message board. If you don't agree with them, you are welcome to find somewhere else to post your personal insults. I hear Twitter aren't too fussy! 

A million and one reasons but a glaring one is our absolute lack of pace and ability in our front line. 
We don’t / can’t turn any defences and get them on the back foot so they never have to worry about it. We play in front of them and lump it up to a distinctly average forward and rarely have players supporting him. 
With  this in mind we’ve scored the least we have in many a year and with our also porous defence we’ve lost more than we’ve won. 

I was in the minority of keeping Nigel Clough. He was building a superb team and would have got us promoted on a ridiculously small budget.
 
 

I think some of that Cloughie sentiment is a bit more to do with him being perceived a bit more as: one of us...maybe?
I won’t lie, I’m a bit of a Nigel apologist and always want him to do well when I see him pop up at another club.
He absolutely turned our club around, from top to bottom, after inheriting an absolute mess. We might be in need of someone to do a similar job after this season ?

Cocu desperately needed forwards/goal scorers and was equally denied them in his transfer windows. Presumably, transfer embargo, lack of finance etc were already biting.
 
I accept he had to go but I’m afraid Rooney hasn’t been any more impressive. He’s had lots of time, and unlike Cocu, had Bielik available for a while. What a player he was in his short time on the pitch this season. Another few games and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Cocu desperately needed forwards/goal scorers and was equally denied them in his transfer windows. Presumably, transfer embargo, lack of finance etc were already biting.
 
I accept he had to go but I’m afraid Rooney hasn’t been any more impressive. He’s had lots of time, and unlike Cocu, had Bielik available for a while. What a player he was in his short time on the pitch this season. Another few games and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Cocu desperately needed forwards/goal scorers and was equally denied them in his transfer windows. Presumably, transfer embargo, lack of finance etc were already biting.
 
I accept he had to go but I’m afraid Rooney hasn’t been any more impressive. He’s had lots of time, and unlike Cocu, had Bielik available for a while. What a player he was in his short time on the pitch this season. Another few games and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Quite common in most clubs. The candidates all had suitable CV’s ... None of us were fundamentally opposed to any of the appointments at the time. We might have had a dislike of either Pearson’s 1970’s PE teacher mode or the razzmatazz of Lampard but they were all typical of football. We have had every variety with the exception of trying to recruit the sort of tough guy agricultural manager with a “proven record” (although Pearson might fit that bill) . where everyone would have moaned about the lack of ambition.
The transfer policy “errors” started with Bryson and Hughes being injured in the same match which lead to panic buying at inflated prices. At the time, these were seen as bold, supportive and positive moves. Your are eating hindsight by the KFC family bucket load.
The financial state of the club ? .. Mel filled it with money .. some spent well, some badly .. We haven’t had a fiscal mismanagement situation or anything “taken” from the club by Mel. We got in a mess on FFP and Mel coughed up by buying the stadium and paying the club money for it.
Sam Rush ? Is Mel really responsible for another man’s ethics ? ( or lack of them ? ) 
The fiasco ? .. Someone broke their pledges or didn’t meet their obligations .. it wasn’t Mel. Maybe Mel shouldn’t  have trusted them but good business and life is defined by trust. You have to start somewhere. Has anyone thought about Mel here ? He has obviously had some serious health issues yet he hasn’t flinched from being a DCFC man 
yes, for sure, be sceptical or wary of new owners, we all are, we care about our club, but Mel has been a straight shooter from day one. Some of the things he’s done or wanted to do didn’t work out but he is trustworthy beyond doubt . Now maybe those he has trusted are sharks .. but that’s a different story. 
 
I cannot believe how you have such a judgmental attitude to a guy who has given his best efforts and a shed load of money to this club. Your judgement is littered with an astounding lack of logical analysis. 

There’s probably a deep psychological reason why I read that as ‘urinate over it for days’.....

I can understand people being frustrated when young players we've nurtured and brought though the ranks nick off at the first available opportunity, to be honest. Given Wazza has had him in the senior squad recently, the onward path is pretty clear if he stays, after all. He's signed as a scholar until he's 18, but we're told he's been offered a pre-contract which he's not signed. You'd like to see young players (under the guidance of their parents), sticking around for at least a single season at the club that is, in a major regard, responsible for their development, but it seems that is not the way it works these days. For me, that's a shame. I'd have dearly loved to see him stay but no doubt the big fish are offering to throw comparatively huge money at him and his parents and we clearly can't compete with that. 
For all of that, I hope Kaide prospers at Liverpool for several reasons; firstly, he seems to be a good kid and a likeable one at that. Secondly, we could always use the sell-on / add-on fees. And lastly, as a further testament to the excellence of our Academy set-up and another reminder that there are aspects of Mel Morris' tenure that some less gracious fans might appreciate a little more than they clearly do.

Can’t be bored when the Dirties are losing 3-0 to mighty Crawley ??

We all need a Boost though. We need to hear from M@M about the takeover as soon as possible. When it comes to the Crunchie, we’re so short of Celebrations at present and there’s no Revels for us......( Yes, I’m bored?)