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Ultimately, whatever Mel has said and done. The fact is he bought the club, he authorised the contract and signed the cheques in a gamble to get us into the premier league, it hasn’t worked out and he should be the one paying for it now. The guy is a wealthy enough man to keep the club  afloat for many many years to come. The simply fact is he doesn’t want to. 
How does this persist? Why when it happened to Wigan and Bury was it not sorted.
FFP\P&S is a broken system… it allows clubs to loose £39 million over a 3 year period before anyone takes notice?! Bury can’t afford to loose £39m and now they are gone. 
I have said for a long time now, and I heard G Neville say something similar at the weekend. There needs to be real time regulation of clubs. There needs to be a way of making owners accountable. Let’s use the example of Mel. Mel bought Derby and he was reportedly worth £500m apparently he still is?! But let’s say he’s not and he’s “only” now worth £100m. He’s still got £100m that rightly (unfortunately not legally) should be in the club. 

Morally how is it right that Mel has £100m but the staff member at Moore farm won’t be paid and they will have to beg borrow steal to buy a loaf of bread now? 
Why is it that Wayne Rooney is paying for the teams away trips? 
Why is is that loyal Derby fans who paid for their season tickets and asked for a refund during the pandemic were ignored?! 
 
Something has to be done in future. Owners should have to personally guarantee their clubs liability’s over and above their incomings. Even if the there was some protection to owners - for example If you have an owner worth - £500m they have to personally guarantee the club until their down to their last £10m. 
Maybe then when Mel was hell bent on promotion, he’d have thought more about the contracts he was signing! He’d have thought harder about sacking Clement, Pearson, Cocu. He’d have thought harder about appointing them and he’d have know that if this goes wrong it’s going to cost him most of his fortune. 
 
However, this is not the case and Mel can now got to bed tonight sleeping like a baby, knowing that his money is safe. I genuinely believe he thinks he’s been hard done by here and it’s not his fault. Mel if you’re reading, pay off the debts. We know you can afford to. Just leave the club in the same state that you found it in. 

Mel just doesn’t want to carry on funding it. He’s still has his fortune but just doesn’t want to carry on funding. I’m not even sure he’s put in any significant amount of his own money. I think most of it has been borrowed or income into the clubs. The guys name should be mud. 

Yeah, he doesn’t have to carry on funding the club and leaves it with huge amount of debt. If the debt is as high as reported it doesn’t look like he’s put a penny into the club, looks like he’s just leveraged it all this time and suddenly we can’t afford the repayments and day to day running costs. 

I don’t think that will be the case, I have a feeling MSD will step in and run the club fora few years until they can sell on. 

I don’t think that will be the case, I have a feeling MSD will step in and run the club fora few years until they can sell on. 

Whichever way we dress it up we broke the rules... he bent over backwards to avoid FFP so is it a massive surprise they want us punished... We had to work out an accounting process to work around the rules and sell our stadium so that we could make the signings we have. Ultimately he tried to cheat and he's embarrassed the club and the fans. We'll probably go into league one on the back of his ownership so ultimately I don't blame fans if they want Mel out. Whilst I don't doubt his intentions and commitment to Derby County he has monumentally failed! 

Whichever way we dress it up we broke the rules... he bent over backwards to avoid FFP so is it a massive surprise they want us punished... We had to work out an accounting process to work around the rules and sell our stadium so that we could make the signings we have. Ultimately he tried to cheat and he's embarrassed the club and the fans. We'll probably go into league one on the back of his ownership so ultimately I don't blame fans if they want Mel out. Whilst I don't doubt his intentions and commitment to Derby County he has monumentally failed! 

Whichever way we dress it up we broke the rules... he bent over backwards to avoid FFP so is it a massive surprise they want us punished... We had to work out an accounting process to work around the rules and sell our stadium so that we could make the signings we have. Ultimately he tried to cheat and he's embarrassed the club and the fans. We'll probably go into league one on the back of his ownership so ultimately I don't blame fans if they want Mel out. Whilst I don't doubt his intentions and commitment to Derby County he has monumentally failed! 

Whichever way we dress it up we broke the rules... he bent over backwards to avoid FFP so is it a massive surprise they want us punished... We had to work out an accounting process to work around the rules and sell our stadium so that we could make the signings we have. Ultimately he tried to cheat and he's embarrassed the club and the fans. We'll probably go into league one on the back of his ownership so ultimately I don't blame fans if they want Mel out. Whilst I don't doubt his intentions and commitment to Derby County he has monumentally failed! 

Whichever way we dress it up we broke the rules... he bent over backwards to avoid FFP so is it a massive surprise they want us punished... We had to work out an accounting process to work around the rules and sell our stadium so that we could make the signings we have. Ultimately he tried to cheat and he's embarrassed the club and the fans. We'll probably go into league one on the back of his ownership so ultimately I don't blame fans if they want Mel out. Whilst I don't doubt his intentions and commitment to Derby County he has monumentally failed! 

Whichever way we dress it up we broke the rules... he bent over backwards to avoid FFP so is it a massive surprise they want us punished... We had to work out an accounting process to work around the rules and sell our stadium so that we could make the signings we have. Ultimately he tried to cheat and he's embarrassed the club and the fans. We'll probably go into league one on the back of his ownership so ultimately I don't blame fans if they want Mel out. Whilst I don't doubt his intentions and commitment to Derby County he has monumentally failed! 

Whichever way we dress it up we broke the rules... he bent over backwards to avoid FFP so is it a massive surprise they want us punished... We had to work out an accounting process to work around the rules and sell our stadium so that we could make the signings we have. Ultimately he tried to cheat and he's embarrassed the club and the fans. We'll probably go into league one on the back of his ownership so ultimately I don't blame fans if they want Mel out. Whilst I don't doubt his intentions and commitment to Derby County he has monumentally failed! 

I think the word “advised” is the key point. You can choose to act on their advice or not, making it a preference.
I think if you look under flares etc it will be fans are prohibited from entry with a flares. 

My point is more, if you were worried about covid I don’t think people wearing a mask in the concourse would make them feel safer overall, as your about to stand in close proximity with a large group of people anyway. Making the whole mask in concourse debate trivial. There really is no point. 
 
In society I genuinely feel masks will be here to stay in some settings- eg 
crowded public transport
Hospitals 
doctors 
City centre supermarkets 
 
football stadiums… 90 minutes in close proximity to 10-20 people sat around you isn’t going to be ofset by a 2 minute walk to your seat through the concourse. - unless of course you sit the whole game with it on. 
 

Unless it’s more for Steve Gibson in which case the mail say 9, Gibson says “no way” and It’s  actually 12…

He does have a point. Bird all too often plays it sideways instead of turning and playing forwards. Eventually someone gets it under a bit of pressure and the ball goes astray. I’d much rather play the ball forward and loose it than play lots of balls sideways until we loose it. 
In the words of Paul Scholes if you’re going to play in midfield you can’t pass the ball backwards. 
If you play in midfield you have to have enough about you to play the ball forwards 80-90% of your passes. Bird has all the attributes to be a good midfielder he just needs to work out why he’s on the pitch. It is not to keep possession.
Bird isn’t the only one there are others but he is the most frustrating as he could actually do it with the ability he has. 

Has to do it more often I’m afraid. The passes are almost always there too! It’s so frustrating watching, so often they’ll be a man free in midfield but he doesn’t trust himself to make it. 
 
When he played as a number 10 last season I did feel he looked more confident to make those passes but when he’s deep he just pickes it up and passes around the back 4. 

Im tempted to post some frames of him in possession to share as it really is frustrating.

He does have a point. Bird all too often plays it sideways instead of turning and playing forwards. Eventually someone gets it under a bit of pressure and the ball goes astray. I’d much rather play the ball forward and loose it than play lots of balls sideways until we loose it. 
In the words of Paul Scholes if you’re going to play in midfield you can’t pass the ball backwards. 
If you play in midfield you have to have enough about you to play the ball forwards 80-90% of your passes. Bird has all the attributes to be a good midfielder he just needs to work out why he’s on the pitch. It is not to keep possession.
Bird isn’t the only one there are others but he is the most frustrating as he could actually do it with the ability he has. 

Up until their goal I actually thought we played really well from the back. We managed to turn and play forward and beat their press however the goal we conceded just ruined our game plan. We still haven’t overturned going a goal down in 28 games 

Up until their goal I actually thought we played really well from the back. We managed to turn and play forward and beat their press however the goal we conceded just ruined our game plan. We still haven’t overturned going a goal down in 28 games 

Up until their goal I actually thought we played really well from the back. We managed to turn and play forward and beat their press however the goal we conceded just ruined our game plan. We still haven’t overturned going a goal down in 28 games 

1 bad result and suddenly that result is the picture of the club. Gheeze it’s football, you win some you loose some. 
What I saw tonight was no different to what we used to see under Nigel clough, honest enough hard working group of lads willing to try and play football on the ground. We’ll win some we’ll loose some. Mid to lower table if we avoid points penalty. 

1 bad result and suddenly that result is the picture of the club. Gheeze it’s football, you win some you loose some. 
What I saw tonight was no different to what we used to see under Nigel clough, honest enough hard working group of lads willing to try and play football on the ground. We’ll win some we’ll loose some. Mid to lower table if we avoid points penalty. 

1 bad result and suddenly that result is the picture of the club. Gheeze it’s football, you win some you loose some. 
What I saw tonight was no different to what we used to see under Nigel clough, honest enough hard working group of lads willing to try and play football on the ground. We’ll win some we’ll loose some. Mid to lower table if we avoid points penalty. 

1 bad result and suddenly that result is the picture of the club. Gheeze it’s football, you win some you loose some. 
What I saw tonight was no different to what we used to see under Nigel clough, honest enough hard working group of lads willing to try and play football on the ground. We’ll win some we’ll loose some. Mid to lower table if we avoid points penalty. 

I actually have no problem with the managers he brought in sort from the fact none of them continued a style of play. For example, no one minded Rowett when we were 2nd in the league at Christmas. If we had then signed Warnock or Dyche etc we would have been able to move on from a style of play without ripping the team out. 
 
If we had gone from Mac to Cocu or Thomas Frank. We wouldn’t have been signing Butterfield Johnson Anya Blackman etc. We would have just signed players that complimented what we had. 
 
Unfortunately, every manager we have brought in wanted to rip the squad out and we ended up with Deadwood players that in all honesty we probably ruined their careers as well. 
 
I do think he should have constantly had scouts looking for the next manager who could have worked with the players we had rather than just reacting to the scenarios.