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Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

Matches like these have me questioning is pw good enough for derby

I doubt this is the right formation to win the game, sure its effective defensively, but isn't the objective for Derby to win the game.
Does it go to penalties if it remains goal less?

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-krystian-bielik-derby-25434768
I only partly agree with pw assessment.
Bielik is better than most of the midfielders we signed in the summer. He would improve the squad.
He's good enough to be going to the world Cup. He's picked up several man of the match awards at Birmingham.
 

Or we could with the exception of Hector, go old school ...
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-paul-warne-transfers-7780410
 

https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/morecambe/preview/preview-morecambe-vs-derby-prediction-team-news-lineups_498245.html?cQx=NN&newsnow

So you've decided the new owner and new manger are going to be useless, on behalf of the club I would like to thank you for your patience and support during this new era. 

Becuase there is a clear trend in how a manager has performed after 12 games and how he'll perform in his overall spell in charge. The evidence I've shown proves that.

I don't know why you keep banging on about Rosenior's record. It's disingenuous. The sample size is very small. 

Manager appointments are a lottery, i mean Ian Dowie and Gary Megson have promotion to the PL on their cv but it doesn't make them good managers.
Nathan Jones left Luton for Stoke which was a sensible decision but with Stoke's form patchy at best they got rid much to their fans delight. Now he's back at Luton tearing it up and a hot property again. 
We were apparently sniffing round Warne in the summer but maybe DC thought the best chance of getting signings in the building was to give LR a chance? Or maybe Warne wasn't interested at the time? However when we appointed Warne he was in demand by championship clubs so clearly it wasn't an illogical move for us to appoint him. Sure, his preferred style is completely different to what we've been used too, but if you get the right manager at the right time that can be the start of a beautiful thing e.g. Mac 1, Bielsa, Cooper. 
It's now looking like our eggs might be in the basket for next season. But to be fair how many seasons did it take Leeds, Forest, Sheff Utd etc to get out of this god forsaken league? Clubs of this size don't end up in league 1 off the back of one bad season, its usually down to a lot of bad business off the field for a number of years. 
Will Warne be a success? God knows, but I do think Clowes was well within his rights to appoint him.

Why would you spend millions on a football team and give the job full time to a manager with no proper experience.
As the new owner, logic dictates you give the job to the best manager you can get which in derbys case is 3 time league one promotion manager pw.
 

My personal insomnia at about the same level as this game.
That aside, warne made 3 changes to the previous game against ipswich but kept the same formation, which doesn't appear to be working for him.
Pw comments about ipswich being relegated with most of their younger championship level players in tact as a team, and that all ipswich needed to do was to further strengthen to achieve where they now are, seems a fair comment
Pw admitted that we shouldn't expect promotion this season, as the team needs a complete rebuild, also seems fair.
I wouldn't want to see this team promoted to the championship in its current form, or we would be doing a Rotherham and coming straight back down again.
I think under lr we would've have had a few more wins this season than pw will bring, but that longer term, pw will do what's requires to promote the team.
I criticised lr for doing something similar to pw, by sticking to a formation, but then lr actually changed formation, during a game and won the game.
It's clear to me that Derby don't have the team to make 352 work.
I thimg Pw is getting frustrated that his plans are failing at present, but I can see that he's trying to build a derby strategy.
Strategy building is a science, projects take time and don't always immediately go to plan.
Last season, pw once again promoted Rotherham from league one, he did so with the team in 2nd place, so he knows what it takes to win in this league.
He promoted Rotherham 3x and that team had a much lower budget than derby will have when we eventually get to spend it.
 
 

Tonight was rubbish but everything I’ve heard him say makes sense, which heartens me. I don’t think he wants hoofball but he wants to faff around less and be on the front foot. Either got the wrong players or players with the wrong attitude at the mo.  I don’t think this is the group of players to see out his vision, but I think that’s why they’ve gone for the 4 year deal. There’s a long term plan, even if short term it’s not a good fit. 

Of course I’m down, who isn’t. That post loss tristesse lasts for at least 3 days. The weight of the world is on your shoulders. We got F all. We want to win every game. The style doesn’t seem great either, it doesn’t seem right that ageing wingers are being asked to cover the whole length of the pitch. Yes some “glooms are to be expected.
Yet .. we lost by one goal, away, to one of the leading teams. We have a new manager with limited resources. There’s a whole lot going on behind the scenes. I don’t think for a minute PW isn’t aware of our weaknesses and doesn’t have a plan to address them. 
We need to have some faith and some loyalty. It’s way too early to judge anything. For me, it s on to the next game and quite simply .. come on lads, you can do better. UTR ! 

The 4 year contract means Warne is here to stay, promotion this season or not. The squad was bundled together in the close season at the last minute with the best we could have signed due to the circumstances. Administration has led to a massive imbalance in the squad, the players are either just out of nappies or heading for the retirement home. Warne is going to need 2/3 windows before we’ll see this team play how he wants to IMO. My worry is with restrictions following into next season it’s going to take even longer to accumulate a capable squad. Yes we have some decent players but we have absolutely zero depth. Patience is going to be key.

We've only played a few games under Warne so we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
The immediate problem in my opinion is the system. We're playing a 352 with players who do not suit the formation. It's square pegs in round holes again. We just look lost at times. To play that system you need proper wingbacks, we don't have any.
He is obviously a good manager, getting a club like Rotherham promoted 3 times isn't luck. The squad we have also has good players. But maybe not the right combination of players at this time for what Warne is trying to do.

Shots on target zero, tells me formation was wrong again

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/town-v-derby-meet-the-opponents-9339332
Interesting comments from pw.