Norman

No,  yesterday wasn’t the system that gave us a long winning run, it was the one from before that which earned us naff all for mist of the season so far.
I hope its a one-off or he’s gone to start getting flack like he got after Stevenage and Crewe.

Well DavesaRam is back. The ref was absolutely terrible today, with a load of contentious decisions. But she isn't the reason we threw two points way. The players have to hold their hands up, because they were far too ponderous in their play. But that in part may be because  Paul Warne regressed us to "Whack it wide and cross it". Why on earth would he do that?
Just about every time we got the ball, the only thing on our minds was to get it into the channels and sling crosses in - all match long. I think we mustered one shot from the central area of the pitch in the first half. So after all the flack he got after the Stevenage and Crewe games, it seemed he had listened to the criticisms and changed how we played, and we go on a long winning run. So why go back to a system that hadn't worked all season so far, for us?
Is that why Sibley, and to a lesser degree, Bird were ineffective? Sibley had to keep wandering over to almost the wing back position to get a chance of being given the ball. So the fact that we hardly created any clear chances all match long is actually no surprise. All Wycombe had to do was deal with an endless supply of hopeless crosses into their box. And our goal was a scruffy tap-in, rather than a goal created by good play.
Sadly, a number of people re happy with the yellow cards we were given, but seemed oblivious to the Wycombe players dropping down like they been snipered, and then rolling around like they were in an operating theatre without any anaesthetic. It was obvious that they were trying to get our players booked. I would have thought the the ref in doing her homework on the teams she was in charge of should know that this sort of skullduggery was a normal Wycombe skillset, but was taken in by it almost every time. Also, Wycombe players blatantly kicked the ball away 3 or 4 times before Vokes got booked for it, with one of those times before Sibley got his Christmas card. There was also the upending of Wilson, which was a clear card, but despite playing the advantage for us, then didn't book the offender afterwards. Perhaps she used the advantage to hide from her responsibilities. She certainly ducked them with Lyle Taylor, who spent the entire match not playing football. Every time he challenged for the ball, he either went for the man, or tried for the free-kick. On around 40 minutes he was comprehensively beaten by Cashin, so he fell to the floor holding his face, which is simulation, which is a yellow card. But not for Rebecca Welch. She ducked the foul on Wilson, which ended up with Collins getting his yellow card, but that was his own fault. Yes the Wycombe con man was feigning injury, but it was none of Collins business, so he should have stayed away, but Wycombe had done a job on him and he lost his temper. Ignoring the trip on NML, which was probably a good call, but JJ getting clattered in the box was either a penalty, or a corner, but she flunked out of that one, as she did when Bird was wrestled to the floor - that is two blatant penalties turned down, so it isn't only Warne who has reverted to type. She also ignored jumping straight into the back of JJ out on the touchline, with his knees hitting JJ's shoulder blades, so it wasn't a simple "coming together", it was yet another yellow card avoided.
My son and I were starting to consider trying our hand at the rush to get away tickets in the New Year, but if we are going to play like this again, is it worth it? We proved for most of the season that "wing it and whack it" doesn't work, and we have proved in recent games that playing football does work. So why go back to what doesn't work? It's your call, Paul Warne.

Not sure if mentioned before, did Forest sing champions of Europe you’ll never sing that?

Steady on young man. That’s not allowed. I know he is an ambulance chaser, but Gibson is in a different league.

I'm a reasonably diplomatic, boring, steady middle aged bloke.
I'm reasonably well educated and can write reasonably well so try to choose words on this forum that express an opinion that may be different to others, without deliberately causing offence. I certainly don't have 'poor writing' or 'poor vocabulary' as anything like an excuse if I were to cause offence.........but, without being patronising, I do understand not all so-called offensive posts are intended to be offensive.
However, it's apparent that I'm not alone in finding it tiresome that almost every single thread deteriorates into a game of point scoring, oneupmanship and, increasingly, forum archeology, in order to be unpleasant to one another.
There seems to be, in equal measure, deliberate attempts to cause offence and seek offence and it's just not great reading. I'm not in the slightest bit supportive of closing down debates or censoring differences of opinion but the number of personal spats with unpleasant language is getting beyond a joke.
I can't blame the mods because, individually, most of these posts fall below the threshold of complaint but, collectively, they make this forum so much worse than it could be.
I came to this forum for camaraderie when we nearly went under as a club - and it was a source of great comfort, information and humour.
It's got to the point where I'm considering signing off and and using the Telegraph and Radio Derby as my main non-matchday links - they have limitations but they are civil.
Any ideas what we can do?

Slightly off topic, does anyone understand the Sky advert with Warnock in it?

I'm not sure it's about Musk so much as the human need to build people up to be heroes, and then knock them back down when they get too big for their boots. The tabloids do this stuff all the time. It sells. The fascination is not so much Musk himself, but in seeing this revered business man with seemingly super human business decision making, exposing all his character flaws and weaknesses like no-one has ever done before. 
It's about how we like to see these people come crashing down because in whatever way suits us (political, personal life, business acumen), it makes each of us feel superior. 

0.5 for Leyton Orient, 2.64 for derby on FotMob, so pretty in line with the result.

Learn what the word average means I beg.

It’s a bit of a strange one with this.
Tickets for Wigan on general sale at 10 o’clock tomorrow morning.
There is currently 151 tickets available in two blocks, NS2and NS3 have sold out and I believe NS5 hasn’t been released yet.
When they initially went on sale there was two more unopened blocks NS6 and NS7 but they have since disappeared 🤷🏻‍♂️
We have still only had the initial allocation of 3,012 so presumably there is more to come.

XG.

180 odd reckon there’s a couple more blocks to open 

You mean the X.com that was originally a bank, set-up by Musk and then later changed its name to PayPal?

@Andicis
Sort this post out, please.

@Andicis
Sort this post out, please.

Nice try Richard but your still the biggest blunder boy in our recent history, always had a mistake in you 

Never is a long time.
Our record will be broken. 
Nor are we the "laughing stock of English football" like it or not, many won't even have a clue who has the worst points tally ever.

Surely gonna cost more to hire someone to do the peddling while you sit in the back🤷🏻‍♂️

I wish it were. They dress it up by calling it things like "long-termism" and "transhumanism" these days but it's all right there. But anyway - - OT for this thread. It's in the "Who Wants To Live Forever" thread if you're interested

Kinda disgusting that the staff, the ones who most likely need their money as they earn maybe what a player earns in 3 weeks in a year, are the ones not getting paid in full.

Well done Ron Brooks. Got the substitutions spot on. 

Can’t disagree any more. Having a decision viewed once in real time being made incorrectly is annoying but human. We can all have a go at the ref, move on and hope to get the better end of the stick next time.
Having it viewed hundreds of times from multiple views and slowed down til all context is removed, meanwhile 5 minutes has passed and all joy of a goal has been sucked away, for a decision to still be made incorrectly is not good and never will be. 

Here are the last four of the Starship version 1s to be built:
All these are pretty much ready to fly, hoping they still will. Sometimes SpaceX scraps Starships if it thinks it can't learn anything from them. But it's great news that only after two integrated flight tests, the company has learnt enough to implement significant improvements to the design. 
My hope is that one of these remaining ones will be sent into orbit to test what's called on-orbit refuelling. SpaceX and NASA are developing this technology together, for the Artemis flights to the Moon, but the bonus for all of us is that we need to perfect it to be able to go to Mars with a lot of cargo.
Until now, liquid-fuelled rockets used up all their fuel simply in escaping Earth's gravity well, before coasting towards their final destination. One of many radical new ideas for Starship is to refuel in orbit, meaning you can reach faster speeds on the way to Mars, and then also use fuel to slow you down once you reach your destination.