Half fan

3 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said:

Currently, it's non-existent tbh. I really can't work out what it is that we're supposed to be doing either defensively, in transition or going forward. It's really not good enough

Maybe the squad now thinks the same. It would explain today's lack of performance.

If the Warne love-in has ended and there's just a void of disbelief "in the building", we would be in trouble.

43 minutes ago, sage said:

Quality interview of Derby players from a young Vale fan 

Is this lad one of the best interviewers ever? His questions are interesting, he speaks well, his facial expressions beg a good answer, and the players obviously rate him.

Sign him up!

Good luck anyway, young fella. Your career is mapped out. Go for it!

The communication skills of Messrs Clowes and Warne are remarkable...endearing...motivating...honest...and synergistic.

Just like rot starts at the top, we now have proof that the top is where good starts too.

I don't care what happens on the field (well, of course I do) as long as we have these two to look up to, admire and treasure for their passion, commitment, vision, common sense and honesty. True leaders, but with their feet on the ground.

Thank you both, for being who you are. We are lucky to have you.

COYR.

During the anguish abour the survival of DCFC, the content of this forum was fantastic - a tribute to the club's traditions and the fanbase.

I doubt the Samaritans could have done a better job in comforting the many loyal fans deeply anguished by events and the possible liquidation of one of the beating hearts of the Derby and Derbyshire community.

This forum also created and published many calls to action nationally and locally which attracted so many favourable headlines and must have played their part in the eventual rescue of the Club.

Our national prestige soared, generated a lot of national sympathy and support, and led to tremendous gates and match support even when we lost.

However, since LR was replaced by PW, I wonder if I am alone in noticing a downward spiral in the objectives and quality of some contributions. Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions, but do we not need to temper the expression of them by considering the effect on the DCFC owner, staff and players who are becoming the target of some vitriol?

Some of us seem to forget our debt to our new owner. And seem to forget the laborious keep-ball of LR which we had endured for more than the current season and which had led to so many away defeats and the inability even to score a goal for match after match.

This forgetfulness is accompanied by totally unrealistic expectations of what the new owner and manager should achieve. And ignorance of just how effective League 1 opposition can be when pumped up by the adrenalin of facing the high and not so mighty DCFC.

It is sadly well known that social media can inflict a lot of harm on its targets. For the sake of our Club and those on its payroll and the person who bankrolls our payroll, may I plead for some moderation and realism please?

11 hours ago, jono said:

You pretend not to get it. But you do. Quite why you want to play that particular game, I guess only you know. 
 

The post (just in case you really didn’t get it ) was about the universe unfolding as it does and intemperate throwing of toys from prams, gloom mongering, judgemental speculation and general pouting is unworthy. The queen as an example of a wise head not given to hasty verbal vomiting is very relevant 

Thanks Jono for your accurate perception.

Sadly our wise words are falling on stony ground.

I shall depart this forum until after the Cambridge match, as it's sunk to new depths and is best left to wallow meantime.

In previous unstable times, I have written on this forum how consoling and supportive the contributions have been.

I accept that we all have differing opinions and that this great forum is the place to express them.

But the critical judgements levied in the past 24 hours against David Clowes and Paul Warne are bordering on a disgrace.

Give our owner-saviour a chance please, and allow our new football boss to show us what he can do, rather than write him off before he has started.

I hope he's signed his contract, because some of the comments on here might encourage him to return pronto to Rotherham.

Have we forgotten the example of our blessed and departed monarch already? Surely the Elizabethan Age has not disappeared so rapidly.

COYR fans! DCFC always has been a roller coaster. All apsects of the ride are there to be enjoyed, or we are not supporters!

Our owner is showing he's a community custodian as well as a club custodian. Fantastic.

DC owner of DC. CD captain of DC. Both showing good old fashioned leadership values which are a dwindling asset in our once great country.

I'm not now too bothered about DCFC winning or losing games - I'm just honoured to support a club with such an owner and captain.

My wise boss used to say that if a new senior appointee failed, it was not the fault of the appointee but of the people who appointed him.

We all know that the higher up a large organisation, the worse the decisions often are - because too often those at the top are only any good at getting to the top.

So well done once again Mr Clowes for being objectively sensible.

At this rate, DCFC might just become a successful Club. Though of course, it depends on your criteria for judging success!

51 minutes ago, ram59 said:

There are many 'successful' business people like MM, but are they successful or have they just been lucky in 1 venture. I feared that this was the case with CK and I'm glad that we dodged that potential bullet.

I have been personally caught up in such a position, a guy makes a mint by selling his company, buys out my aging parents leaving me to stay in the business with my small shareholding. He also buys several other small businesses, with the intention to join them together and grow into a massive company. All very well, but from day 1 of the take over, I knew that he didn't have a clue on how to run our company and I suspect the others too. Things quickly went downhill and I brought up solutions at group meetings, which were ignored. I was 'rewarded' for this with instant dismissal without any reason, without any notice, without any pay, without any holiday pay and 3 children and a mortgage. By the time I won my unfair dismissal case, the group of companies had gone bust and with it so had my shareholding and any payments awarded to me.

Did the guy intend this to happen, no, but success in 1 venture lead him to believe that he was a good businessman and that he would be successful come what may.

Without a lot of bad luck along the way, MM could well have been successful at Derby, but he wasn't clever enough to realise when to pull back and stop chasing the dream, much like a gambler keeps betting money he hasn't got in order to recover his loses and make his fortune.

I don't believe MM had any malice just ambition, bad luck, arrogance, desperation and finally self preservation, in that order.

Spot on, ram59!

Yes, it's a sad fact that more than half of all UK acquisitions destroy shareholder value in both the acquiring company and the acquired company. This is usually due to incompetence in the Board of the acquring company, be it the wrong strategy in selecting the acquisition and/or bad decisions in the administration of the takeover. Only our Brian could walk on water (sometimes), which the ego of many acquiring leaders prevents them from realising.

Less publicised than the corporate damage, is the personal damage done to the blameless individuals caught up in the wreckage. Your story is a good example, sadly. But the damage to DCFC and its fans, is one of the more publicised examples.

The success of our fans in helping the phoenix rise from the ashes with a long-lasting emotional and political campaign, is an inspiring role model which will not often be repeated. This is not least because Mr Clowes has shown a complete lack of arrogance. He behaves not like an avaricious owner but like the caring custodian of an essential institution. We must wish him well in finding like-minded backers!

It will make a great film when DCFC wins promotion. Whether that would helpfully be to the financially bonkers Premier League, will be an interesting question one day!

Thank you Mr Clowes.

Thank you Mr Clowes.

Who'd be Mr Clowes right now?

Either he gives Liam the job, assuming Liam's staying because he wants it, or he attempts to recruit ANO without knowing ANO's reaction and loses Liam who won't want to be seen as a fall-back.

Maybe, just maybe, he has a good relationship already with, say Nigel C, who he knows would return.

Can't wait for Nigel's 'whatevers' and the public castigation of allegedly injured players!

The obvious explanation for the timing is that Rooney and Clowes aren't seeing eye to eye. 

If this is the case, the reasons could be numerous.

In the short term, Rooney leaving has to be a huge step backwards, as others have already detailed above.

Welcome to football club ownership, Mr Clowes!

Just voting for the army to take over (the UK, not DCFC) in the next General Election after everyone at Downing Street has been sent to the Priory for rehabilitation.

Come to think of it, has anyone asked the army if it would like to acquire DCFC? The Ministry of Defence has a reputation for wasting millions of our money, so acquiring DCFC would make a pleasant change. What a great and unique recruiter we'd be with the SAS logo on our shirts as we storm up the UK and European leagues. Or the LRDG logo if we resort to long-ball tactics on a poor pitch.

This is a boring and humourless thread. It proves that the contributors have no knowledge about DCFC and totally lack initiative and creativity. It should be locked immediately so we can concentrate on the real crisis facing DCFC - Partygate.

It's a funny old life.

The Pool was my first team. My parents owned a hotel in Albert Road from 1954 to 1964. Aged between 9 and 19, I used to run from Albert Road to Bloomfield Road (and back again afterwards) non-stop weaving in and out between the crowds, and pay a tanner or a bob (I forget which but probably both over the years) to stand on the Kop. Saw Sir Stan, Stan, Gordon West, Tony Waiters, Emlyn Hughes, Alan Ball, Ray Charnley etc. Painted my rattle tangerine and white (what's happened to rattles) and used to be told off for swearing when complaining about Jackie Mudie. Which was often.

In 1973, I moved to Derby which I've supported ever since, but kept a fond eye on the Pool.

So it's very moving to see our two clubs linked like this.

It's all mapped out for us, I reckon.

COYR and the Seasiders.

Business is about people first and foremost. The money comes second, especially in acquisitions.

What I'm excited about is that CK and Wayne have met and share a vision and get on. They seem to respect each other, talk the same language and fully understand each other's role.

Let's hope this partnership is rapidly signed and sealed so that the resurrection of DCFC can begin.

An apt thought for Easter, is it not?

Well written Mel, who seemingly has three objectives about which we can only guess, of course.

The first is to expose authoritatively and in detail what he sees as the incompetence of the EFL in recent years, about which many Forum members have written and commentators complained. The context for the current dispute is too easily overlooked by outsiders. He has brought it to everyone's attention.

His second objective is to flush out the motives of MFC, WW and the EFL. If between them, they find ways to reject his offer - as some suspect is likely - they will bring the wrath of MPs etc down on themselves. Andrew Bridgen's rapid and positive response to Mel's offer is a breath of fresh air which indicates the tornado which will blow against these three parties if they stick to their pea-shooters.

HIs third objective will be (I hope, for his sake and DCFC's) to free the logjam which will remain if the EFL dismisses his offer. If he then reassures any potential bidders for DCFC that they can ignore any cost of litigation against DCFC, Q can then rapidly name a PB and finalise arrangements with all other creditors. If Mel had gone straight to his third objective by making this offer now - as some have suggested - he would have missed the opportunity to achieve his second objective.

We all make mistakes, and Mel has made some which are very expensive for himself and DCFC. But his intentions cannot be questioned. They are in marked contrast to those we suspect of the three parties, and I hope much of the venom against him is now withdrawn. More importantly, I hope that if he indemnifies the potential bidders, Q will now move quickly because they no longer have any rationale to keep schtum, leave us in the dark and allow the continued and damaging exit of our playing staff.

We sure do live in interesting times!

Has Wayne just made it harder to win tomorrow?

6 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

Sorry @Half fan, no reproduction of copyrighted articles please 

Apologies.

Can members read for themselves today's Daily Telegraph Business Section critical review of the EFL?!

And then decide how it could help us?

Let's hope Quantuma aren't busy selling Tom and Jason for enough cash to see out the season.

This will not remove the two Swords of Damocles from above the prospective buyers.

And it will ensure League 1 football next season.

If we've not been liquidated by then.

4 hours ago, Andicis said:

Everton are the Premier League version of us from a few years ago. A poo squad full of expensive mercenaries. It'll take a huge rebuild to fix them from where they are, and they are probably close to FFP limits. I'd also far rather manage Brighton who are very sensibly run.

4 hours ago, BathRam72 said:

Sounds familiar

Read the Daily Telegraph expose of the owner for details of the problems at Everton 'which stem from the owner's unpredictable behaviour.' Hope Wayne has read it.

It needs to be the right question.

Namely, why is the EFL allowing two unsubstantiated claims from rival Clubs to prevent the Administrators selling DCFC and thereby showing liquidity for the remainder of the current season funded via the non-returnable deposit?

If we agree this is the question, can we all submit it to the MPs we have lobbied?

Why haven't the Administrators spotted this? Are you asking them? If they sell Jason Knight beforehand - which I think will condemn us to League 1 - it will be inexcusable.

Also, has anyone read the Daily Telegraph's expose of the Everton Chairman? Hopefully, Wayne has read it and will add it to the reaosns why he should reject Everton now and at the end of the season. Forewarned is forearmed.

On 15/01/2022 at 21:50, Carl Sagan said:

Great post.

Another way to contact your MP is the https://www.writetothem.com/ website. Doing it this way ensures you are forced to include all the necessary details for the MP (so they have no excuse for ignoring you) and tracks the submission meaning if they don't respond their statistics look poor. 

Thanks for the link. I have just written to my local Rushcliffe MP Ruth Edwards.