GangwayD

We’ve really got to be cautious this time around, it’s fairly obvious we overplayed him last season due to the fact we were in such a perilous position. He and we really can’t afford for him to have a recurrence of the same injury, it could well be career ending.

My support is unconditional. I became a Ram at 4 years old & I’m 56 now. Derby County has been a constant in my life. I think I’m a patient fan and have faith in the Club.
That said I am now extremely concerned following WR’s post-match comments and I’m really hoping we get some fresh communication from MM & SP in the next 48 hours. Wayne said the pride and dignity has gone from the Club so regardless of the current situation the Club needs to say something rallying to give us something to hold on to. 
The name of Derby County has been battered in the media, and frequently unfairly. I want the Club to hit back now and refute our so-called perilous state, because saying nothing now gives silent approbation to the very negative stuff that’s flying around. 

Actually, if a footballer was given the choice between working on a building site, or playing football - for the same wages - I on think that they'd nearly all choose football.
But, £0.5m is not peanuts!
I am not suggesting that they work on the national minimum age - or even a typical salary. 
I am just saying that if the reason that we cannot sign players id because they will not play for as "little" as £0.5m per year, then we should not sign them.

Not surprisingly support increases when a team is doing well, just remember the heady days of 2014 when Pride Park was filled to the rafters...."Since I was young" bouncing off the roof.......
Ironically we are in a hole, the polar opposite situation and I suppose many supporters will...."stop supporting"
 
As a fan base, have we got the metal and love for the RAMS that the club is going to need over the next year or two. We often talk of our fantastic support, well we'll see. I rather suspect it will turn out not to be as solid or loyal as we often believe.

OK, a real mixed bag. The result obviously wasn't good but a good exercise against a team who pressed high, were competitive & keen to game manage - very similar to sides we'll be playing this season. Lets also not forget Salford are highly likely to be finishing top 3 in League Two this coming season (one of the biggest budgets in bottom 2 divisions) so not a massive difference quality wise.
First half we were unfortunate to go in behind. Totally dominated before the goal & even with their tails up after their goal (and pressing higher), we were still able to play through them. Bird was particularly good first half - they struggled to press us effectively because he controlled the tempo & was unafraid to pass through the lines. Carroll & Morrison also had moments of breaking through Salford's midfield but as an overall unit, the intensity wasn't good enough - too many touches, too pedestrian & not enough movement from those further forward. That said, still had a few chances - Aluko should have scored, Morrison unfortunate with header, Carroll should have got his effort on target & there were other instances of decent delivery but not enough bodies in the box.
Poor goal to concede start of the second half (first goal just a fluke - Morrison really unfortunate to concede a penalty) - poor pass from Shinnie & whilst Elliott is good in the air, to rise so easily between McDonald & Wisdom was not good enough - even if you factor in they'd only been on 6/7 mins. Thereafter, we still created chances - Baldock did well with one effort but an atrocious decision to try & pass to Morrison for the near open goal
Positives - felt Jagielka & Stearman looked very solid & rarely troubled, Sibley looked really bright when he came on, good to see Bird playing with such confidence, Forsyth put in some great delivery from left side second half (as did Byrne first half)
As a takeaway, I like how we're trying to play but we need to work on the intensity of our attacking play & one touch stuff - we're not going to open disciplined teams up otherwise. Some of that will be pre-season rustiness & a lot of new faces - we can improve & we will improve.

I’m sure his Derby debut was on a cold, wet and very windy night at Pride Park in a really physical game, forget the opposition. 
He was blown around like a rag doll, but was principled in trying to pass and play coming from Spurs.
In these few games I thought he got bullied but went back and probably learnt quite a bit.  Had a real purple patch at Swansea and looked a player although had some physicality around him to mind him.
Worth a look for sure.
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I’m sure his Derby debut was on a cold, wet and very windy night at Pride Park in a really physical game, forget the opposition. 
He was blown around like a rag doll, but was principled in trying to pass and play coming from Spurs.
In these few games I thought he got bullied but went back and probably learnt quite a bit.  Had a real purple patch at Swansea and looked a player although had some physicality around him to mind him.
Worth a look for sure.
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Just watched the MOTD highlights of the 0-0 in the cup at the Green Army in 84. Me and dad behind the goal. Surprisingly can remember very little about the game other than their shot hitting both posts. That period has to be even worse than this. Going so close to going bust, other than Bobby a team of ageing players on one last pay day and not an awful lot of hope that things would change. Then came Arthur and the rest is history….

There are a few players who once they find their 'home' then they settle and show the sort of consistent form which meant other clubs originally invested in them.
Sometimes the pieces just fit. 
Shouldn't be an expensive gamble and Rooney will obviously know him so lets hope he can polish this diamond.
Cheers 
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There are a few players who once they find their 'home' then they settle and show the sort of consistent form which meant other clubs originally invested in them.
Sometimes the pieces just fit. 
Shouldn't be an expensive gamble and Rooney will obviously know him so lets hope he can polish this diamond.
Cheers 
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There are a few players who once they find their 'home' then they settle and show the sort of consistent form which meant other clubs originally invested in them.
Sometimes the pieces just fit. 
Shouldn't be an expensive gamble and Rooney will obviously know him so lets hope he can polish this diamond.
Cheers 
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There are a few players who once they find their 'home' then they settle and show the sort of consistent form which meant other clubs originally invested in them.
Sometimes the pieces just fit. 
Shouldn't be an expensive gamble and Rooney will obviously know him so lets hope he can polish this diamond.
Cheers 
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There are a few players who once they find their 'home' then they settle and show the sort of consistent form which meant other clubs originally invested in them.
Sometimes the pieces just fit. 
Shouldn't be an expensive gamble and Rooney will obviously know him so lets hope he can polish this diamond.
Cheers 
Gangway D from the terrace. 
 

That's pretty much it for me.  At the point we signed him, we knew we'd almost certainly be playing one up front (having loaned in Mount and Wilson etc), and he'd only ever been productive in a 2 at Peterborough.  The only time we ever got close to making him work was with Waghorn sort of playing a wide-right-but-almost-a-striker position, so he was almost in a 2.  It was just another stupid signing really, with no thought into how he was going to be used or where he fit in the team.
He may well go on to score a decent amount for them, but that doesn't necessarily mean he would have scored them for us, playing with our squad in our system.  Obviously caveat is we have no idea what our squad or system is yet for next season though.

I'm all Natalie Imbruglia'd on this one - in one corner we have a player who knew where the goal was and had the ability to find the net from all angles.  In the other corner we have a player who 4 managers chose not to play.  He clearly has ability so it's more than likely down to attitude and commitment, or lack thereof.  It would have been nice to recoup some moolah on him but c'est la vie.  I kinda wish him well, but will also be somewhat miffed if he goes to Hull and smacks in 15+ goals. 

Does anyone think we should not have moved?

So sad that they did such a crap job when they took It down, just stuck up a crap little statue, named a few streets after It and that’s It. I have only been down there maybe 2 or 3 times since we moved to Legoland and It is, as I said, sad. Just a miserable place 

How we remember it ! 
 

The true definition of a very average journeyman……

Of course it matters what players we sign whatever we think of Rooney’s playing style and management and plenty of players would want to join us. 
I agree re:Marriott. I don’t buy into this he’s a lost hope and in the right system for him (two strikers), then I think he’d score goals.  Don’t think he’s been managed well imo. As I said, even if your not fancied, they need to be made to feel part of it, so when called upon he might make a difference. 
Seems to me, they want rid of him, yet again a player we take a huge hit on for the fee we paid. 
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Think Ryan Woods might be a good shout to cover Bielik. Better than Shinnie or alongside until we know how Bielik will fair.
Woods stock at Brentford was high but they do seem a club who build players then sell them to see them go backwards. 

Management is all about getting the best out of players you have at your disposal, even those you don’t fancy (see Marriott) as you may need to call on them and if they think you believe on them or have a system to suit then it’s half the battle.
Some players named on here make interesting reading and I dare say we’ll come up against many of them and go, we should have had him.
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Some interesting names on this thread and it's what we'll need to be doing, although quite a few other clubs will be shopping in the bargain bucket.  
I did overhear in the pub couple of lads discussing names and some of those brought up I don't think we'd have a prayer of getting on wages I suspect we could offer.  Danny Rose, Ahmed Elmohamdy, Robbie Brady we're three they wanted us to go for.   None of these would be for me if I'm honest, even if we had money.
Think it will all be last minute again and we'll go into the season under cooked - same as last year no doubt. 
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Congratulations to Mason for tonight’s Champions League win.
Thrilled for him.
Cheers
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there will always been moronic keyboard trolls. when you call them out they hide. if they were highlighted and named by companies names put in local press banned from games made to clean local streets as punishment. i wonder how many would reoffend. what's the difference if your skin is black white yellow green blue your still human. and we sold him end of story.

Not from me. I was thrilled we had TBE. Loved his passion when he took Pompey to the semi finals v Spurs.
Remember him jumping out the dug out barking at someone and banging his chest. Proper old school.
At the time, that was just what we needed but it took some convincing my other mates.
Actually think we could do with a bit of this now, coupled with a shrewd coach.
Cheers
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