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It hurts me but I think you’re right.
There was a family vid on Instagram this morning and Jordan does seem to be carrying a bit more around the middle than I would expect for a pro soccer player, Marriott I would love to see in a two. His type of play just doesn’t suit being a loan striker. Vydra always looked lost and desperate on his own but learned to drop deeper and found his way. Perhaps Marriott could do the same but I am not wildly optimistic. On Duncan there’s just been nothing which seems odd
 
Who knows what is in an individuals mind ? I don’t, but it would be fantastic if any or all of them got close to what their specs seem to indicate. A full on Fired up Ibe would be a game changer for our squads attacking ability and he’d drag forward Knight, Bird Shinnie to where they could way more effective.

So much talent, yet so little return. Marriott just can't be arsed to train and as such, he's not going to get the game time he needs to be match sharp. He never seems more than half fit and is constantly picking up niggles as a consequence. He's had a bunch of chances now and just doesn't seem to care about football that much and Derby County even less. It's gutting to feel this way as I was so certain he was going to be the next Bobby D, but I fear his ship has sailed. If he doesn't show up to pre-season raring to go, I'd be shipping him out to anyone who'll have him just to get some of his wages off the books.
Having been sympathetic to Jordon's issues, I saw a video recently where far from acknowledging the support of the club, or the fans for that matter, he seemed to be saying that there was no support at all, at least until that fateful Insta post that had everyone hopping about. He actually came across as pretty resentful that there'd not been more done for him at Derby, but this is a football club and I'm not entirely sure what he expects. Also seemed to resent that fact that he'd been questions raised over his frequent lateness for training. Having believed he'd be an epic signing, I'm now fast losing faith that he'll be even remotely meaningful for us. He says he's in a better place now and good to go, but I'm not feeling it to be honest. To my mind, the club, the fans and the coaching staff HAVE tried to be supportive and patient, now it's up to Jordon. If it's not to be then fine, but don't be making out that you've not been given a shot, nor that most fans have not been encouraging and patient.
As for Duncan, well he's just vanished into the footballing ether. I'm not sure he's even had an U23 start yet, let alone threatened the senior squad. When he has, it's been hard to see what all the fuss is about. Perhaps he needs a run of games, but one has to then ask, why, if he's the 'wunderkind' we were led to believe, has he not been able to secure a few more starts?  Perhaps he's not as good as the Scouse faithful and he himself thinks? The only mitigating factors I can see being there's a some decent players in front of him to dislodge for him to be starting games, but that hardly bodes well for his senior career.
All in all, three depressing signings thus far for me, with little to indicate that this will change soon, if ever. Historically I've always been super supportive where the players are concerned, but this is a season where I'd really like to see one or two more kick on. The way I see it, it's the last chance saloon for two of them. Duncan, at least, has time on his side, but if the other two fail at Derby, I can't see other clubs rushing in to take a flyer. 
Sorry for the less than cheery post! ?‍♂️

The only one that might realistically play is Marriott in my mind and he would need to start well or he would be finished 

It might only be a pipe dream but I feel like these three keep getting completely forgotten at the minute by Derby fans (myself included)
If we can - somehow, anyhow - get them fit and firing and somewhere back to their best, the squad will already look much much better before any transfers are even done. ?

Being double-bagged with AZ now, I should be OK - it's the anti-vaxxers I feel sorry for. The odds are stacked against them if they want to attend games

For me there's no chance of this. Dell knows owning a Championship club is a mug's fame. That's why they're prepared to lend money to them at fantastically high interest rates and make a killing. 
It would be madness to throw away all their easy profits to go and sit on the other side of the fence and start losing money instead. 

1. Yes - No worries at all.
I want the whole day out back. The visit to the pubs, the hubbub of voices (even the annoying ones talking poo), an online argument about the team selection distracting me from my pint and leading to me necking it before leaving to go to the match; the sobering (in the positive sense) walk to the ground in the fresh air (occasionally interrupted by burger van fumes) whilst scoffing a sausage roll or something; the getting annoyed at the clueless gobshites around me at the game (it's just not the same in the forum); the walk back with spirits lifted after a surprisingly decent result, even the walk back after a crap result and wanting to kick every lamppost along the way. All of it.
2. N/A - I wouldn't be attending games regardless of the virus.
I very rarely go to away games, but if I did then the answer would be the same as question 1.

Honest Mate I really do think that was because someone else broke their promise to him. When they did Mel didn’t have the readies ready at short notice. He either had to sell something or borrow cash against his other assets .. which he did ...and the players got paid. 
 
I think he got stuffed by some shiny suits. It was embarrassing but he faced the music and coughed up. He didn’t have money in his wallet so had to drive home and get some from the piggy bank which took a while, but there was money for Derby in the piggy bank

Honest Mate I really do think that was because someone else broke their promise to him. When they did Mel didn’t have the readies ready at short notice. He either had to sell something or borrow cash against his other assets .. which he did ...and the players got paid. 
 
I think he got stuffed by some shiny suits. It was embarrassing but he faced the music and coughed up. He didn’t have money in his wallet so had to drive home and get some from the piggy bank which took a while, but there was money for Derby in the piggy bank

Any updates that aren't bickering about history and sizes of other clubs?

I mitre known you would have an extensive collection. ⚽️⚽️

What a true gentleman & outstanding leader of our club what he did for us last game of season means everything to me!! I'm sure with out Curtis in them last 10 mins we would of conceded a headed goal with out dout and been relegated!! What a truly wonderful suprise for me and my boys with him coming into our work while on holiday in Devon!! made 2 people very happy on a very busy day. Total  Respect for this man and were lucky to call him a ram!! 
Ps does this mean I'm itk as he not going coaching yet got one more season in him!! I did ban him from dance machine to make sure ok for next year ????

Language Timothy!

Stay calm B4. Nothing new seems to have happened that should concern us/you.

I'd hate to see him go. He has an engine like Roy Keane. I don't think I have ever seen such gung ho full power at 89 minutes, then add in evident skill and tghat he can score......  If we get off the back foot one day then JK will be a monster 

I'd hate to see him go. He has an engine like Roy Keane. I don't think I have ever seen such gung ho full power at 89 minutes, then add in evident skill and tghat he can score......  If we get off the back foot one day then JK will be a monster 

I’d keep Knight. He’s good at football. Eventually we’ll get a manager who realises this.

Myths include the conclusion that he does not take advice from anyone, that he alone did the due diligence on the fake shake and the Spanish dreamer, that he has not put £150 million into the club, that he is a dictator and not a benefactor etc etc.

It’s an odd one this taking a stand. We all have bees in bonnets - mine is definitely high cost lenders preying on the desperate or the ill educated. I cheered when Wonga went and the vomit ridden “Brighthouse”  Horrible concepts run by horrible people. 
I’m not religious but the concept of usuary so frowned on by religion is a good one. Being prone to addiction is one thing - booze and gambling - in the end these are illnesses that with  help can be challenged and defeated. Loan sharks are predatory and need to be  shamed, vilified and wiped off the face of the earth. They claim it is a business model or they are serving a market. Garbage .. they are crooks in smart suits. Loathsome 
 
 

Maybe just a tad.

I think generating fixtures isn't that hard to do. OK there's some constraints like policing availability (e.g. not having both Sheffield clubs at home at the same time) etc, but considering they probably have a computer program to do it for them it really can't be that long a process.
 

Is it really called the Capital One cup this year? 
Are they any better than gambling or alcohol sponsors that are getting attacked at the minute.
Giving credit to people with poor credit history but with a huge APR.
Not out to make a stand against this, just find it interesting that’s all, excuse the pun.

I agree with that.
But also each roll of the dice was a new managerial appointment with no consistency of playing styles. So new players were always needed to fit with the new style.
With a few steps skipped, look at the path from:
McClaren -> Pearson -> McClaren 
Martin pivotal under McClaren, loaned out under Pearson, fetched back in a farcical manner under Mac2.
How costly was that? Financially and playing wise.

The point of this thread is that it's easy to be a know all after the event.