Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I am sure that I read on this website Mel lost the tribunal case regarding Sam Rush, companies house tells a much different story in fact completely the reverse. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c1a0edc40f0b60bc4029cf2/Mr_S_Rush_v_The_Derby_County_Football_Club_Ltd___others_2601130.2017_Dismissal.pdf Is this another Mel Myth we can cross off as fake myth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I thought I’d read that they’d settled out of court? RadioactiveWaste, therealhantsram and Tyler Durden 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Yeah they settled out of court. Hence it showing as withdrawn by the claimant. Tyler Durden and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 Case was thrown out by the tribunal judge., a full summary is available here; https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5b180be1e5274a18e8bf51d8/Mr_S_Rush_v_Sevco_5112_Limited_2601130.17.pdf Many pages to go through but Mel did everything correctly, so another Mel myth busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said: Case was thrown out by the tribunal judge., a full summary is available here; https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5b180be1e5274a18e8bf51d8/Mr_S_Rush_v_Sevco_5112_Limited_2601130.17.pdf Many pages to go through but Mel did everything correctly, so another Mel myth busted. Doesn't it say the claim will proceed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said: Case was thrown out by the tribunal judge., a full summary is available here; https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5b180be1e5274a18e8bf51d8/Mr_S_Rush_v_Sevco_5112_Limited_2601130.17.pdf Many pages to go through but Mel did everything correctly, so another Mel myth busted. I'd never heard anyone suggest that Mel lost the case? Even the Beeb was clear they had settled out of court. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46018316 Which other Mel-myths do you believe are still out there? I wasn't aware of too many, there are lots of views (from all sides) on his decisions but they are opinions, some of which I agree with and some I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, BaaLocks said: I'd never heard anyone suggest that Mel lost the case? Even the Beeb was clear they had settled out of court. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46018316 Which other Mel-myths do you believe are still out there? I wasn't aware of too many, there are lots of views (from all sides) on his decisions but they are opinions, some of which I agree with and some I don't. 20 minutes ago, Spanish said: Doesn't it say the claim will proceed? No my first link showed the case was dismissed by the judge and was dated after his summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said: No my first link showed the case was dismissed by the judge and was dated after his summary. settled out of court it reads to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, BaaLocks said: I'd never heard anyone suggest that Mel lost the case? Even the Beeb was clear they had settled out of court. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46018316 Which other Mel-myths do you believe are still out there? I wasn't aware of too many, there are lots of views (from all sides) on his decisions but they are opinions, some of which I agree with and some I don't. Myths include the conclusion that he does not take advice from anyone, that he alone did the due diligence on the fake shake and the Spanish dreamer, that he has not put £150 million into the club, that he is a dictator and not a benefactor etc etc. RedSox, Gisby, Eatonram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, Asheville Ram said: Myths include the conclusion that he does not take advice from anyone, that he alone did the due diligence on the fake shake and the Spanish dreamer, that he has not put £150 million into the club, that he is a dictator and not a benefactor etc etc. You are quite right, I think he has done a marvelous job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spanish said: settled out of court it reads to me JUDGMENT The proceedings are dismissed following a withdrawal of the claim by the claimant. _____________________________ Employment Judge Heap 5th December 2018_______________ Rush withdrew as his case did not stand up in the Tribunal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 if it is settled out of court the claimant is the only one who can withdraw it. So I don't think this proves anything either way. TBH I hope Mel won the case and didn't pay him a penny. ThePrisoner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spanish said: You are quite right, I think he has done a marvelous job. Muchas gracias camarada derbynut and kevinhectoring 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said: Myths include the conclusion that he does not take advice from anyone, that he alone did the due diligence on the fake shake and the Spanish dreamer, that he has not put £150 million into the club, that he is a dictator and not a benefactor etc etc. I'll be honest, first time hearing nearly all of those. Given his health I think we can dismiss the due diligence one as bunkum, nigh on impossible to have done it on his own. I do think, however, there is a very good case to be made that whoever did the due diligence - and it was under MMs ultimate guidance - fell well short on both occassions (particularly the second one when one Twitter user found out more in one evening than the club seemed to have unpicked in three months). The ones on his ways of working aren't really myths, they're opinions. Whether you're a fan or not, everyone (including Mel) is aligned that this is the closing chapter in the story. He's been clear he either doesn't want to, or can't, invest the huge sums needed to mount another promotion push. The one thing that isn't a myth is that we were about three minutes from going out of the Championship and need to fix pretty much everything - on the pitch and beyond - if we are not to face another torrid season next time round. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said: Myths include the conclusion that he does not take advice from anyone, that he alone did the due diligence on the fake shake and the Spanish dreamer, that he has not put £150 million into the club, that he is a dictator and not a benefactor etc etc. The best one was where some joker said he stormed in to the dressing room once at half time...some people eh.... Tyler Durden and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, BaaLocks said: I'll be honest, first time hearing nearly all of those. Given his health I think we can dismiss the due diligence one as bunkum, nigh on impossible to have done it on his own. I do think, however, there is a very good case to be made that whoever did the due diligence - and it was under MMs ultimate guidance - fell well short on both occassions (particularly the second one when one Twitter user found out more in one evening than the club seemed to have unpicked in three months). The ones on his ways of working aren't really myths, they're opinions. Whether you're a fan or not, everyone (including Mel) is aligned that this is the closing chapter in the story. He's been clear he either doesn't want to, or can't, invest the huge sums needed to mount another promotion push. The one thing that isn't a myth is that we were about three minutes from going out of the Championship and need to fix pretty much everything - on the pitch and beyond - if we are not to face another torrid season next time round. My personal favourite was an extra season of Darren Bent at 30k a week when he hit an appearance trigger no-one knew about. As I recall they were quite startled when he turned up with his boots for a pre-season kick about. richinspain, i-Ram and jimtastic56 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Asheville Ram said: I am sure that I read on this website Mel lost the tribunal case regarding Sam Rush, companies house tells a much different story in fact completely the reverse. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c1a0edc40f0b60bc4029cf2/Mr_S_Rush_v_The_Derby_County_Football_Club_Ltd___others_2601130.2017_Dismissal.pdf Is this another Mel Myth we can cross off as fake myth? What were the other urban myths that you have also crossed off as a matter of casual interest. And as so many people have already commented before me the case was settled out of court so it neither proves nor disproves the agenda you're trying to further. Not sure why you posted this at all as it just seems like you are trying to irrationally defend Morris without any substance to back it up with atherstoneram, Rev, Angry Ram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 As opposed to irrationally attacking Mr Morris without any substance, only hearsay to back up your multitude of spiteful comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said: As opposed to irrationally attacking Mr Morris without any substance, only hearsay to back up your multitude of spiteful comments. What is our league position? what is the current status of the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Spanish said: What is our league position? what is the current status of the club? Current league position - joint top along with 22 other teams Current status solvent, paying wages and up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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