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Yeah I thought the sub was going to be for either Sibley or Morrison both of whom looked knackered. Jozwiak still looked bright at that point. 

I thought he was very unfortunate to be substituted this afternoon.  Morrison had exhausted himself first half (he was everywhere).
Jozwiak was excellent. 

Well he probably reacted because his balls were trodden on.
But when it comes to: was it a foul? the player is the last person in the country to express a view, because he was on his back looking at the sky at the time of the alleged offence.
 
The slow motion is damning but I think @angieramgot it right. He didn’t intentionally stamp. At the most he avoided an opportunity not to land on the guys’ cahones. Don’t think that’s a red card or even a foul. This is not a tickling contest
 
Thinking about it I’m not sure it was even a direct hit.  If you had 90 kgs of Scotsman land from height directly on both or even one baalock, with studs, I think you’d be the proud owner of quite a thin waffle. Your reaction would be rather different. 
yes, Fozzy will probably cop it but don’t think he should. If anyone on this forum thinks he’s the type to stamp intentionally on gonads, I’d be surprised   Even gumps gonads 
thought Fozzy had a pretty good game in fact esp given that he was leading the charge on Tuesday. Especially THAT pass  
 

We threw it away
We threw it awa - ay
We're Derby County 
We threw it away.
Strange how a couple of seasons ago I used to get all manner of rollickings because of my dissatisfaction with the match officials, and I did tone it down a bit. But now I hardly need to say a word, because people have started to cotton on to what the officials get up to. And for the last couple of seasons we have been so poor that the ref's decisions have been irrelevant.
Today, however, we are the architects of our own downfall. Forest were really, really poor and were there for the taking, and but for a few better decisions with the final ball - Lawrence not putting Joswiack through on goal being a major one - we would have been out of sight by half time. But second half only Forest came back out of the changing rooms. We were lackadaisical and sloppy and half-arsed for quite a way into the second half. Yes Hughton did make a couple of changes, cutting of the supply lines through the first two phases, and pressing our back line to make them play back to Roos. Yes his distribution wasn't good today, but mot of the time he was put under huge pressure by the awful back passes. And Rooney singularly failed to change things. We kept getting pressed and closed down like this last season, and eventually learned to stop faffing about at the back. And again it wasn't working today, but we kept on insisting on doing it until late on in the game. If it doesn't work, try something else, for goodness sake. So having shown what a rabble Forest are, we let them improve to the point of looking like a poor team.
But if the match officials had done their job things would have turned out differently. I have watched the Sky highlights, and Fozzy does get his foot onto the Forest player's wedding tackle, but no way was that intentional. Apart from the fact that Fozzy isn't nasty enough to even swat a fly, he wasn't even looking, so no way did he deliberately place his foot there. Apparently Sky were blathering on about it for ages afterwards. And despite showing the Worrall handball in the highlights, they didn't give it much attention. It was blatantly clear that he knew exactly what he was doing, and there were two Derby players in line to receive the ball. Definite red card. Definite penalty. But they didn't show the blatant foul on Sibley when he would have through on goal in the first half. Yet again, a definite red card. Neither did they show the all-in-wrestling move on Davies towards the end of the second half. That it happened while the ball wasn't moving doesn't matter as it is serious foul play in the penalty area, and the corner had actually been taken by the time that Davies hit the floor. 
In the end, we threw the points away because of our dozy lack of effort in the second half, but most definitely the ref cost us two points today. WITHOUT A DOUBT. And no, I don't normally shout! In addition, he couldn't wait to yellow card Derby players, some of which technically being fully deserved, yet he failed to card Forest players for repeat offences throughout the match. And what was Joswaick booked for when he was the one who had been wrestled to the ground? That was almost as bad as giving Middlesborough a free-kick when one of their players brought his team mate down last week. It is easy to understand people thinking that there are special EFL directives on how to officiate at Derby County matches.
The positives are the way Derby are playing now. At the end of last season, and with all the off-pitch problems, I thought we would be playing even worse than we were then, so our play at the moment is a revelation. After such a poor performance a few matches ago, Joswiack has really improved, and Max Bird has become the Max Bird we all knew and loved.
Keep it going, you Rams. It has become a pleasure to watch you again, instead of just supporting you regardless. Thank you!

I’m surprised at the number of posts in the match thread that seem a bit down. Totally get it was only a draw against our local rivals, mediocre rivals at that. First half though we pretty much bossed it and were far more inventive and creative. Had we got the rub with a better ref, a penalty given or had Stretton just connected sweeter from the brilliance of Sibley, we would have comfortably won; because no way would that poor Forest team have scored twice.
We don’t seem comfortable one in front at the minute, always seems a ricket lurking. Yet under the circumstances of everything of the pitch, the glimpses we are seeing from the nucleus of this team is very encouraging. Rooney is slowly evolving this team into a decent one. He’s honest in his assessments and to give him more credit appreciates the backing the fans are giving right now.
As much as not winning is a bit deflating, there’s a fair few reasons for optimism in this team under Rooney; he’s slowly winning me back over.

Anyone who thought that was a deliberate stamp obviously doesn't know Fozzy.
Know your players.

It's a shame people can only form their opinions on players based on what Sky pundits (who are paid to create talking points) and slow motion replays tell them.
If you look at Fozzy's "stamp" in real time, he is just trying to extricate himself from the tangle. Not looking, no intent but they insist on making a meal of it.
Similarly the Forest equaliser in real time - appalling marking, crisp shot. Roos did well to nearly get down to it and many keepers (Marshall included) wouldn't have got anywhere near. But play it in slo-mo, it's suddenly an "error". 

Game changed when Lawrence went off. Stretton and Buchanan came and and did well, but Lawrence was the best player on the pitch today.
Without more squad options we will struggle to see out games comfortably and it is hard for Rooney to make positive attacking substitutions with what he has available.
But local derbies aren’t always a true reflection of form and I believe we can kick on after the international break and secure more points.
Shout out to Jozwiak who had another good game for us going forward, yeah he made a couple of errors here and there, but overall he was a real threat and made problems for the Forest defence.

Fozzy was brilliant by the way 

For all we know he may be encouraged to post like this to bring in more youthful fans. My teenagers love it all. Not aimed at most of us I think! Also they were/are probably being advised to stay home lots because of covid risks. Innocent fun for his age. Leave him alone for goodness sake. Better than him being in the press falling drunk or worse out of nightclubs, crashing cars drunk or being caught in dubious hotel rooms with scantily clad women......

I would say some form of statement would be welcome, i.e. are we in breach of P&S or not. If the accounts have been submitted then we will know if that's the case or not. I think it would be just be good etiquette from the club as fans are obviously invested in knowing. 
Although, the way the club have been recently, it's almost as though the fans are a burden put upon the club as they want ridiculous things like... open lines of communication, season tickets and the ticket office open.  

Say no more.

I struggle to understand him sometimes, his brother Ron is much more adherent.

What was i saying the other day about Graeme Shinnie leaving absoluely everything on the pitch , immense performance yet again from our reigning player of the season , would also like to praise the work rate of Sam Baldock , hes made a difference to our attacking play , with clever movement and blindside runs

It's hard to argue against this.
Players come without the big price tags, expectations are a lot lower and in many cases having been released they probably feel they have a point to prove.
What works even more in our favour is that the signings have been limited to 12 months, you would imagine this will be Jagielka's last before retirement, however the others will be playing for one more contract be it at Derby or elsewhere, almost like an extended trial.
Morrison has to prove he has the hunger for the game still, started well so far, showing frustration today as the team were not pushing up. This isn't one last contract, but a chance to revive his career at a decent level.

I was steaming when I started this thread.
Another point I’d add is that the fans have been brilliant with him this year. No more sarcastic cheers, which I really hated. Just pure support and lots of Roooooooos.

His radio Derby interview was on as we got back in the car after the match, all going well until he managed to drop an eff bomb in! It was quite funny though, he was describing the performance today and said something like “we effing deserved it”! Thankfully it’s the only clanger he’s dropped  all season, long may it continue, I really like him, keep up the good work Kelle! 
 

Very pleased for him, he is growing nicely into the role of our #1 keeper. 
The criticism of him was at times over the top.

A man who often gets a lot of poo thrown at him. He’s been brilliant so far this season, especially today.
Rooooooooosssss.

16,500 who want to be there and support the team is a pleasure. The usual grudging moaners are not missed by me. I know financially they’re missed but they do drag the place down. 

Just want to bump this thread. Just got back. I thought the support today was brilliant. At about 55 mins it felt like the whole ground was going and that’s rare. Supporters can see the effort and endeavour being put in. Long my it continue. 

Give him player of the season already. A joy to watch at 39. Get bielik back and we will see us have a very stable defensive line 

Jags has a massive pocket and their CF was in it ALL day 

It’s just nice to know that we aren’t paying some uninterested Butterfield or Anya £20,000+ a week but a bunch of lads trying to make a career in football and some grateful to still get a game and play with passion - I have enjoyed this season more than all of last season all ready