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"We apologise for the offence language being picked up through the microphones"

Yes, it's a football match....

Wolves...

They've got Loris Karius from Wish.com tonight. Loris Karius back to the bus.

27 minutes ago, Andrew3000 said:

I read this as Clowes not having having a knee jerk reaction to fans anger. Things have turned ugly in recent weeks but he's not going to let that dictate his decision making yet. Sounds courageous and wise. Have our fan base been conditioned by years of Mel Morris impulsiveness? Quite possibly. A lot of comments on here sound like threats of toxic atmosphere should be driving change. 

Clowes has repeatedly told us his values and so this response should surprise noone.

So, we've got problems atm and perhaps we're trying to work through them rather than tearing everything up. I'm rather proud that he is not treating employees with total contempt.

I'm concerned of course like most, but it's not necessarily naivety or wilfull blindness to show support to a manager when things get tough.

It's progression for me. The manager hasn't progressed the team with the resources at his disposal and I don't think this anger is purely due to the immediate results. Of course they're disappointed however this has the feeling of people being patient with the awful football over the last 9 months and now they've had enough. Bad timing to lose their cool? Possibly.

I think if we showed good signs of progress before the end of last season and the first 3 months of this season, I would 100% agree that this is knee jerk overreacting because a few recent results haven't gone our way and it's dummies being spat out by the minority. Mel Morris was terrible for sacking managers just because of a bad patch over a month or two. But I don't think that's the case. There's been a lot of grumbling supporters for awhile now and this last patch has been the final straw for them, because the majority of the calendar year we have not been good enough.

I respect the owner's values. I genuinely think he reckons this is a just a blip and with a few signings in Jan, we will pick up and fire up the league. The blip has been going on for far too long though and that's my major concern.

3 minutes ago, admira said:

Post BC. Warne in 4th, better than Dave Mackay who won the league title, Rowett, Lampard, Cox, Smith, Davies, Clement.

Don't shoot me down but maybe he's getting unnecessary stick?

 

Paul Warne gaining his wins in the 3rd division where as others around him played 1st or 2nd division teams. If he was managing the team in the league above I would understand it. But when you're not beat Stevenage and Cheltenham then it does throw these kind of stats into question.

If that's the case then Warne will be here until the end of the season. I'm not surprised, I don't think the ownership have smelt the danger from the supporters regarding the lack of backing we have for the manager. I reckon we are one home defeat from a full on meltdown. Currently feel like I am watching the team at home dreading the reaction if we went a goal down and couldn't turn it around. 

I don't agree with the "knee jerk reaction" statement. The football has been dreadful for 9-10 months, I think supporters have been patient for awhile and now the contained anger has boiled over. If away supporters start calling for your head then I don't know how you can turn it around. Personally I can't remember any manager in recent history where supporters have verbally pelted them and all of a sudden the results dramatically change. I suspect the board need to save face by backing him due to the level of investment they've put into the management team.

I'm all for stability by the way. If I saw some shoots of progress with a consistent plan and style every week, Warne would have many more people backing him. But there's no plan, there's zero consistency and his recruitment on the whole has been woeful so far. It comes to a point where the egos need to be dropped for the good of the club. And that time is now.

3...2...1...

Boooooooooooooooooooo!

I take it he'll be doing it the media duties today? That's usually a sign if he's staying or going.

Having slept on it, another major concern is losing our best players in January if we're not competing for promotion. If offers come in, we'll have to sell Bird, Cashin etc. Wildsmith is one of the best keepers in the league, he might fancy being a number one in the Championship. Then it weakens the team even more.

Really big couple of months coming up and we've got a manager on the ropes in the 10th round.

Me waking up this morning:

2 minutes ago, DazzaRam said:

Whoever advised Clowes to appoint Warne over Rosenoir should be locked up for football crimes!! If its just Clowes's decision then he should pay up for his horrendous error. Clowes will always be a hero for saving the club but the decision to not appoint Rosenoir will go down in history as one of the worst at Derby. Warne has sucked the life out of Derby fans. Hes in a special club of managers now along with Jewell,Brown and Docherty!!

I think without the benefit of hindsight, I would have definitely looked at Paul Warne as a candidate based on performance. Sadly, I think he just hasn't proved he can take his managerial ability to a bigger reputation club.

You're right though, I was a big Rosenior fan. I could see the shoots of great football, and we definitely seem to create more and we were genuinely unlucky in some away games, Charlton springs to mind. A really good project the fans could get behind on the cards. Rookie manager, bundled together squad with some quality. I'd have given it a go even for the simple reason of a "good factor" feel, nothing to lose.

2 minutes ago, Ian Buxton's Bat said:

What would the league table look like if you somehow looked at points gained per game so far and budget - points per game per pound spent?

I suspect we’d be pretty near the bottom at the moment although games in hand may make it a bit prettier.

Anyone itk with budgets fancy working it out?

I'm basing this more on what Mr Clowes said in the summer when he said a competitive budget was set with the aim to be challenging for promotion. To me, looking at the issues Reading and Wigan have had financially plus Blackpool having a smaller wage budget than ourselves in the championship last year, we're a strong favourite in this regard.

Sonny Bradley must be on a few quid I'm sure and Hourihane.

I will admit I've had abit of fun at Paul Warne's expense. Harsh, however I feel more sorry for those poor supporters who have spent a lot of money going away to Cheltenham, Shrewsbury and now Stevenage to watch complete utter dross. It is not big headed, we should be dominating these teams. I keep banging on about how large our budgets are vs the rest of the league, this gives Warne a big advantage to make the team as competitive as possible with all these resources at his disposal. And he's just not getting the maximum out of this squad.

Nearly a third of the way through the season and he's won back to back games once. We cannot build any momentum. It is constantly one step forward and two back. I thought Exeter was going to be the start of playing some really good football, creating changes and finishing lesser teams off comfortably. Today we revert back to a nervy shell of misery. The playoffs aren't far away at this point, then again we are 3 points away from 16th. Absolutely embarrassing and even the most positive of supporters can't hide from this. 

We could play the long game, stick things out and pray for some dramatic change in form where we go on a 5 match winning streak and put us back in the hunt at Christmas. The team is so far away from winning even 3 in a row. We have no idea which Derby is going to turn up on a match day. I really hope something clicks and we power up the league. But deep down in my gut, ever since that Port Vale home defeat awhile ago last season, bar a couple of good matches, I feel this team has been horrible to watch under this manager. No quality, mediocrity now setting in and pretending to play like an underdog with really technical players has not worked.

This manager hasn't got to grips with understanding that you cannot play such pragmatic football when you have such a big budget and expect clapping and cheering when things are going poorly. Evolve your ideas, have some more faith in the players to try and dominate the ball. But he is stuck in his "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ways and now his arrogant attitude in the media interviews is starting to really grind my teeth. I have no more faith in Paul Warne, I'm going for the sake of supporting my club. I won't boo him out of the building. But he has to come up with bright ideas quickly or more supporters will turn on him and not keep their opinions to themselves at the ground. I fear things will turn nasty and this benefits no party involved at the club.

I have had jobs in my life where it wasn't the right fit, I didn't settle in well. Maybe it's the same with PW.

Got nothing on tonight, quite happy to drive Warne back to the school gym facilities at Rotherham.

I'd rather watch someone's Granny play tipping point on a Saturday afternoon.

Warne being incredibly mardy, shock horror. Can't handle the criticism. He's shocked by our fans turning. Didn't take much accountability. 

If he lasts the week I'll be impressed.

3 points off 16th place....

Struggling to justify giving him until the end of the season.

Warne special edition headwear now on sale.

Gone from crisp passing to can't pass wind.

Why have we gone to lumping it again. I reckon we could outclass these with some more ball retention.

I mean I'm not a Warne fan but Christ, a bit of positivity is needed today 😁

Made me laugh listening to the Exeter manager saying how he thought he could dominate our right hand side in the game.

Nyambe ate that skinny little winger for lunch.

Derby were okay. Exeter offered absolutely nothing and I think Wildsmith had to keep warm, I don't think they had a shot on target.

Played the ball through midfield alot more and we created even more chances, funny that. Get them more involved and we look alot more dangerous. That's what I want from Derby every game. Solid, in control, no scary moments, let the quality shine through.

Ryan Nyambe is one of the best right backs I've seen in a long time. He didn't give their winger a sniff. Even when he lost the ball, he soon knocked the player off the ball in no time. Quality player, get him signed up on a longer deal.