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On 24/01/2023 at 12:58, Steve Buckley’s Dog said:

Have you seen the state of the fellas who have trotted out carrying the stretcher this season? I’ve seen treacle run faster.

Have you seen the new Rammie run? He gets outpaced by the mascots

4 hours ago, Grumpy Git said:

Hard working families (AKA Daily Mail readers)

In my experience Daily Mail readers rarely refer to hard working families. They much more frequently refer to families doing no work at all, and being paid a fortune by the state.

1 hour ago, angieram said:

Gritstone, that's okay, I'm a bit of an Indian myself, but I do believe in the democratic process.

I think you know me well enough from posts on here, and I can't ever recall making a political comment (I used to hide a few, back when I was a moderator! ?)

Every public group has a constitution and set of rules, whether left or right wing.

But I can assure you that every member of RamsTrust has a vote at all General Meetings. Between those, the Board does of course run the Trust on behalf of its members. But we try to involve them, we do surveys, we have an active members message board and we always ask for questions from members to take to Supporters Charter Group. 

If you've got fifteen minutes, listen to our new Chair Hilary Leam's interview on Radio Derby tonight. About 6.10 p.m.

 

Hilary Leam was excellent on Radio Derby this evening. An impressive interview. I hope she does very well. And, no, I’m not a member of any official supporters group, but I might join if she carries on.

8 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

 

Two things, one from each goal, that sum up the effort and commitment on a heavy, large, bobbly pitch after a hard work out at the weekend.  In the first, Korey Smith winning the ball back that then leads to the pass that frees Dobbin - a right back high up the pitch on the left hand side after 86 minutes; and in the second goal just look how far Springett runs before he slides to keep the ball in - he's offering Fozzy a pass in the left wing back position, well in his own half, before Fozzy blasts it forward, and seconds later he's sliding to keep the ball in, well into their half, to pass it to Dobbin who sets up NML.  

1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

None of that has anything to do with his ability as a manager, though.

We've had plenty of ex-Derby players manage the club. Apart from McClaren, I'm struggling to think of one that took the club forward.

Dave MacKay?

3 minutes ago, CornwallRam said:

Gone apparently.

 

Manchester Evening News reckons that Rooney will be his replacement. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/next-everton-manager-odds-rooney-26048339

At least that speech to the DC Utd dressing room about not wanting to see 'us' down at the bottom again will come true.  If it happens.

6 hours ago, Mucker1884 said:

Meh!  What's so special about 1184 anyway?

Apart from King Henry II encouraging his youngest (and favorite) son John to seize Aquitaine from his brother Richard, and that serious fire damaging Glastonbury Abbey, it was pretty much a rather drab year!  ?

 

 

 

*Thanks, Google. 

Well it was a leap year. That’s special.

Thanks calculator.

1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said:

How do you get your daughter to stop bringing her dog round, which pisses on the carpet and upsets the cat. And how do you stop your son using your debit card ?

Condoms

32 minutes ago, David said:

So Cardiff claim the player wasn't theirs, refuse to pay the transfer fee.

Same player they tried to insure for £20m the very next day after he died.

Now suing the insurance broker for not covering the player.

Whilst still refusing to pay Nantes as he wasn't their player yet.

At this point the EFL should just ban them from registering any players indefinitely until the Sala fee has been paid.

Exceptional circumstances don't include the transaction in FFP submissions.

I think, but may well be wrong, that they have only just paid the first instalment of the fee probably because they have been under a transfer embargo (not for very long though). The embargo has been lifted. Interesting to see what they do when the next instalment is due. The efl are remarkably silent on the matter 

13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

You could start a poll? ? ? #COYR

I thought bielik had decided to stay at Brum. 

15 hours ago, bimmerman said:

Yes. Yes it is

The plymothians(commonly known as janners) defend it to the hilt as well and seem oblivious to how much of a dump it is 

But don't worry, it has an ice rink (that's now closed down), a dry ski slope (that's run right down), an aquarium (that smells funny and the decorative fish in the slabs outside have been nicked) and 7 lidl supermarkets. 

Lovely place ??

To be fair, isn’t that the whole point of a ski slope? 

Unlike most of us lot Max can probably remember what playing football aged 12 feels like. I do think that his form has steadily improved all season and that we are much the better for it. Being on field captain at his age must have felt a daunting task at times for a young guy, but he seems to be growing into the role with every game. His referee management is now much more frequent, for example, chipping away like Savage used to do.

1 hour ago, TigerTedd said:

It’s professional abuse, which in itself is part of the category of organisational abuse, which is outlined As one of 10 forms of abuse in the care act. 

However, that’s talking specifically about people at risk. So is she in some way vulnerable, and unable to protect herself?

I teach safeguarding, main in terms of kids and older people, so this would be an interesting debate. 

In the case of Andrew, a 17 year old is still a child, so there should be a decision made in court as to her capacity to consent. Although 16 is the legal age to be able to consent, it doesn’t mean you still can’t be coerced to consent, and as you’re still technically a child, it means you’re still more vulnerable to coercion. 

Also, she’s technically a child, so, either way, any grown man shagging a child, needs to take a good look in the mirror. Shagging a child isn’t on, no matter what the technicalities might be. 

Serious question. Would, in your view, the older woman who took Harry’s 17 year old innocence behind the pub, be in any sort of difficulty from a legal perspective, given the propensity to prosecute sex offences many years after the event? 

2 hours ago, therealhantsram said:

On the radio last night they did seem to suggest we would be allowed to spend money in the Summer. They didn't explain what that assumption was based on though.

You’re right, but therein lies the problem. We don’t know anything. I would hazard a guess that even David Clowes doesn’t know what the EFL will sanction in the summer - they might be more lenient/open to negotiation  if we get promoted for example. Or less.  Who knows? 
Perhaps the EFL don’t even know themselves yet.

I don’t think we should underestimate their desire to make an example of us to frighten the rest however well the Clowes ‘let’s get the EFL onside’ plan is going.  They’ve got a number of clubs relying totally on the largesse of their owners post Covid and they’ll be terrified that clubs won’t find saviours and/or more will go into administration. 

4 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

to cover trading losses maybe - and might an exceptional sale allow us to tweak the business plan? 

It might allow a tweaking in theory but there are two sides involved in that and by the sounds of it the EFL have refused to sanction any tweaking in this window despite it probably being the case that our current financial performance is better than the original business case outlined.

Who’s to say that they won’t hold that line for the next 18 months (presuming that it was a two year plan)?  The EFL could argue that they have creditors that lost out in mind, that there are plenty of free agents around, that we agreed the plan in the first place, that they want to see us continue to manage our financial affairs properly and now is too soon, that they want to see at least one year’s audited accounts - or they might still just be listening to boro boy.  Who knows?  But we might have to get used to shopping in the freebie market for a few more windows yet.

22 minutes ago, Rev said:

Why call him back before he's served his ban, makes no sense.

 

Perhaps they want to look at him in training while he’s suspended - and then rearrange another loan towards the end of the month with us or someone else; perhaps we’ve suggested he goes back.

On 28/12/2022 at 12:55, Phoenix said:

Fascinating, especially how many at the top of the list were in the 'Sir Brian' years. Is this because of the rigours of modern football, or the size of the pay packets?

In the Championship year under Cloughie, I think about 10 of the players played in 38 or more of the 42 matches. Hector played all 42 I believe.

And interesting too that of the top 10 Sir Brian only bought two players to the club - Roy and Archie.  The rest (of that era) were already Rams players.  He and Peter could spot a player at other clubs and our own.

I still think that the game was harder for players in the 60's and 70's when we talk of the rigours of the modern game - training/sports science/medical care/pitches/smaller squads/more games/tackling/referees were all different.  I doubt that when today's squad come back in 40 years time for an appearance on the pitch that they'll hobble on like Alan Durban or John O'Hare.  I'll bet a fair few played with the benefit of painkillers that probably wouldn't be allowed nowadays.

On 18/12/2022 at 20:02, RoyMac5 said:

Who the hell are they meant to?

 

Add Sibs in, huh? ?

Sibs doing the old ‘I only drank soft drinks all night gaffer’ trick

2 hours ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said:

I thought that was still the case. Any reason why he would keep them separate? Surprised it’s not been spoke about a bit more to be fair seeing the separation has caused so many issues. Plus it would be excellent PR to make a bold statement on how the ground is finally back in control of the club.

might it be that they're separate entities because of who bought them? 

The ground (and Moor Farm lease) is (I think) owned and paid for by the Clowes property business.  If you were a director of that business then you would see the logic of approving that purchase of £20m or so - it's a property deal that you could potentially invest in and then sell on at some stage. Or not as the case may be

But you would question the logic of the property company owning, running and investing in a football club.  So (I think) that the football club, which is not the same thing as the ground/moor farm, was bought by a company run/funded by Clowes himself rather than his property company.

That keeps the two entities separate albeit intrinsically connected, and in a similar company structure to that which Mel had, and probably very sensible in the current circumstances.

Unless that's complete rubbish of course, which no doubt someone will confirm either way.

5 hours ago, David said:

On the sitting v standing debate, it should be quite easy for the club to fix.

Most games we are selling out away allocations, makes little sense to release tickets by blocks, especially when you combine it with the priority system. If you are going to reward fans loyalty, don’t stick them away in the corner of the stand for wanting to buy the ticket early.

Have 2 categories, singing blocks and family/over 50s blocks.

The family/over 50s block should be seen by fans as seated blocks and a family friendly atmosphere. There would be no restrictions preventing a 25 year old fan that would prefer to sit as well from purchasing tickets in these blocks, however if you go in there and stand then expect to be told to sit your arse down by those around you.

Singing sections, expect to stand and hear the more fruity side of the English language.

The club would have someone word it better without actually advertising any blocks as standing which goes against the ground regulations. Rotate the blocks per game so one category is not always being given the best views.

No football fan should ever feel unable to attend away games for fear of feeling unsafe and unable to see the game, right now the club are doing a terrible job at ensuring fans don’t feel this way.

So many stories on here where older fans have had verbals off younger fans either in their seat, or refusing to sit down so they can see, not right at all. It’s a complete lottery of who you will find yourself among and that one game, that one coked up 18 year old could end the away travels of another fan.

Do better Derby.

As someone who prefers to stand wherever possible - I don’t at home because my seat is in the East Stand, but I do wherever I can away - I think your idea is a good one, once you’ve got around the problem of tacitly supporting standing against ground regulations. It is a significant problem though.

However you are wrong to blame Derby for the problem at away grounds. Derby don’t decide the order in which tickets are sold nor the blocks or seats that are open. Each home club do that. The EFL define the minimum number of seats on sale to away fans but if clubs want to increase that allocation they can, or reduce the allocation to the minimum (see our neighbours).
It might be that we, as a club, could try to persuade our opponents to sell their tickets in a different order and/or with subtle messages about who might want to sit where but if the home club refuse to do so - and it won’t be straightforward - then there’s not much Derby can do in practice.

2 hours ago, Poynton ram said:

Ordered my Bolton tickets just over a week ago and still not arrived. Maybe delayed due to mail strikes but they are normally posted quickly. Anyone else having delays?

Mine arrived 4 days after ordering with a strike in between. It’ll probably be due to luck and the efficiency of the local sorting office though i guess me and HorsforthRam will have the same one, unless he’s moved.

12 minutes ago, TimRam said:

Just make sure you can see the lines. #the_good_old_days Marvellous.

 

Playing in white gave us an advantage at certain times of the year, which Roger benefitted from

The linking season is upon us - fill yer boots agents and journos

2 hours ago, Rev said:

Late December he'd still be on holidays if a pupil? 

I reckon he was the creepy school caretaker.

Rod Stewart was an ambition before it became a stage name.

It was late September - just after the schools had gone back

1 hour ago, BaaLocks said:

Descendants of Pakistanis don't carry diseases just because their grandparents came from there. To suggest they do is, well, racist. Even if your suggestion is that people from Braford travel to Pakistan, your suggestion that people who follow a football team a few miles away are likely to be carrying typhoid just because they live near people who have family in Pakistan is, well, racist.

Even if you disagree with both points above the connection of your points to arrive at your riduculous conclusion shows, at least to me, some really disconnected belief systems.

So while you're dishing out personal insults I think your user name is appropriate for your views of me, BaaLocks.  Reread my comments and try to understand the point I was making