maxjam Posted Wednesday at 15:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:07 Hope he took Southgate with him 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted Wednesday at 15:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:07 (edited) Apparently foden is leaving the England team temporarily. Urgent family matters. Edited Wednesday at 15:08 by RadioactiveWaste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted Wednesday at 15:14 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:14 (edited) Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Tripper (Shaw if fit) Mainoo/Wharton Rice Saka/Palmer Foden Gordon Kane Don't really mind which one of Mainoo or Wharton and Saka or Palmer plays. Just play Gordon and have some width ffs. Edited Wednesday at 15:15 by DarkFruitsRam7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted Wednesday at 15:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:21 12 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Apparently foden is leaving the England team temporarily. Urgent family matters. Another burglary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted Wednesday at 15:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:21 Just now, therealhantsram said: Another burglary? No idea, just saw the headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted Wednesday at 15:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Another burglary? Birth of his 3rd Child 👍 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cy779zdr2yro Edited Wednesday at 15:31 by Ram-Alf RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted Wednesday at 15:37 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:37 2 hours ago, Gabby'sThighs said: I hear this a lot but I also heard it a lot during the years when we had Terry, Ferdinand, Cole, Campbell, Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Owen, Rooney, Gascoigne, Shearer, Seaman, etc. Even the 2016 squad included Hart, Walker, Stones, Smalling, Cahill, Dele Alli, Barkley, Wilshere, Kane, Rooney, Sterling, Sturridge, Rashford, Vardy. And the 2016 team was crap but, on paper, those players were really good at the time. We have players of a similar calibre now: some good, some very good, a couple of the best around. We've also got the usual group of players who are ageing out, or have had patchy domestic seasons, and are there based on reputation. And some talented youngsters who lack experience. Plenty of those were decades ago. Euro 96 was 28 years ago now. But I am a loser and I argue the Italia 90 side was the next best side to the one we have now (66 aside). Also, everyone's a manager aren't they. It's why we love the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted Wednesday at 15:47 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:47 46 minutes ago, Srg said: What? and I'm just going to copy Wikipedia here Bellingham IFFHS Men's World Team: 2023[144] Golden Boy: 2023[7] Globe Soccer Awards Emerging Player of the Year: 2023[145] FIFA FIFPRO Men's World 11: 2023[146] La Liga Player of the Month: August 2023,[66] October 2023[76] La Liga Player of the Season: 2023–24[10] La Liga Team of the Season: 2023–24[147] Laureus World Breakthrough of the Year: 2024[85] The Athletic European Player of the Season: 2023–24[148] The Athletic European Young Player of the Season: 2023–24[148] The Athletic European Men's Team of the Season: 2023–24[148] UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2023–24[149] UEFA Champions League Young Player of the Season: 2023–24[87] Harry Kane Bundesliga Goal of the Month: October 2023, November 2023, December 2023, February 2024, April 2024[376] Bundesliga Team of the Season: 2023–24[377] VDV Bundesliga Team of the Season: 2023–24[378] UEFA Champions League top scorer: 2023–24[233] UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2023–24[234] European Golden Shoe: 2023–24[379] IFFHS World's Best Top Division Goal Scorer: 2023[372] IFFHS Men's World Team: 2023[373] Phil Foden FWA Footballer of the Year: 2023–24[155] Premier League Player of the Season: 2023–24[1] Manchester City Player of the Year: 2023–24[99] UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2020–21,[152] 2023–24[153] Kyle Walker FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2023[172] FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2023[173] Manchester City Captain Could keep going here, but that is objective nonsense. You could have kept on going until you realised you had mentioned the 4 only world class players you mean? Comrade 86 and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted Wednesday at 16:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:29 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: I think that overlooks that Sven had a team full of world class players, I don't believe Southgate has, or has ever had. Sven had Rooney, Cole, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, JT and Rio for world class players. Three of those occupied one/two positions, while Rio was out of one tournament and Rooney injured in another. Southgate has a similar conundrum with Rice, Foden and Bellingham, but he has better attacking options in Kane, Saka and Gordon. Walker is one of the world’s best right-backs, and Stones is a top class player. I’d argue Pickford is better than any of our goalkeepers during Sven’s reign. I don’t believe Sven’s team was any better overall than the current group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted Wednesday at 17:52 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:52 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: Sven had Rooney, Cole, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, JT and Rio for world class players. Three of those occupied one/two positions, while Rio was out of one tournament and Rooney injured in another. Southgate has a similar conundrum with Rice, Foden and Bellingham, but he has better attacking options in Kane, Saka and Gordon. Walker is one of the world’s best right-backs, and Stones is a top class player. I’d argue Pickford is better than any of our goalkeepers during Sven’s reign. I don’t believe Sven’s team was any better overall than the current group. Neville and Cole were 2 of the best full backs around. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted Wednesday at 17:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:58 Belgium look worse than us. Their fans reacted in the same way as ours in the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted Wednesday at 18:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:03 3 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Belgium look worse than us. Their fans reacted in the same way as ours in the stadium. They were dreadful, such a shame Ukraine didn't knock them out with that chance in stoppage time. Ukraine are out now, despite having 4 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted Wednesday at 18:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:17 18 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Belgium look worse than us. Their fans reacted in the same way as ours in the stadium. They were certainly poor - not much between them and England to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted Wednesday at 18:25 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:25 21 minutes ago, Highgate said: They were dreadful, such a shame Ukraine didn't knock them out with that chance in stoppage time. Ukraine are out now, despite having 4 points. There will be teams who get through with less points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddielewis Posted Wednesday at 18:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:32 As it stands we play Netherlands but if Czech Rep beat Turkey we will play Slovakia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted Wednesday at 18:48 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:48 England vs Holland will be a decent tie. Southgate probably can’t believe his luck avoiding Germany, Spain, Portugal, France and Belgium. Italy are weak, and Holland probably just about make up the top 10 in the world. Another huge chance. Rammy03 and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted Wednesday at 19:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:43 I think the problem with Southgate is it’s a bit if recurring theme. He started his England career with a bit of bravery and built a good culture and team spirit. But he’s steadily become more scared of losing. The last Euro’s we defended in the Final after going 1-0 up. In the World Cup we got back to 1-1 against France and should have taken the initiative when we on top. Instead, we let them go back in front and then made changes. We’re seeing the same now. We need to mix it up a bit, not necessarily wholesale changes as that would be too much disruption. But tweak a couple players in the same formation or change formation and tweak the players - it wouldn’t take many changes to go 3-4-3/3-5-2. Tournament football is short with between 3 and 7 games and you need to react if it’s not working. Robson did in ‘86 and ‘90, Venables did in ‘96. One of the reasons I like Paul Warne is because he’s not afraid to change it if it’s not working, either in game, or from game to game. My fear is Southgate may dig his heels in. We have world class players. It’s a bit like the difference between Clough Jnr and McClaren. Clough was too cautious and scared of losing. McClaren took the same players, picked a formation that got the best out of them, and took the shackles off. Southgate needs to channel his inner Steve McClaren (if he has one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted Wednesday at 19:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:53 If Georgia win this then we'll play Slovakia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted Wednesday at 20:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:17 Scotland's non penalty was more of a penalty than that. cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted Wednesday at 20:18 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:18 These Euros are a complete lottery. Literally anyone could win. Mr. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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