RadioactiveWaste Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Perhaps we need to produce a pamphlet "accepting Paul Warne" or "How to be open to the light of Paul Warne's Derby County " Bobble hatted missionaries going across the country, spreading the good news of Derby's promotion, starting places of worship for converts... Andicis, Crewton, DiggerB and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 10 minutes ago, Kathcairns said: Ive been a fan for over 55 years, but i think you can be a touch sarcastic at times. Yes I can. However I do tend to stick to comments about the football/players/manager, that's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Perhaps we need to produce a pamphlet "accepting Paul Warne" or "How to be open to the light of Paul Warne's Derby County " Bobble hatted missionaries going across the country, spreading the good news of Derby's promotion, starting places of worship for converts... Issue them with collecting plates too, for the finances needed to compete in the Championship! 😄 RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, IslandExile said: One chicken, two chickens, three chickens..... IF it happens, it will indeed be a very good achievement. You should not count your chickens.... Or you could end up with egg on your face. To keep the pun-fest going... I should've said an eggs-ellent achievement Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 10 minutes ago, IslandExile said: You should not count your chickens.... Or you could end up with egg on your face. To keep the pun-fest going... I should've said an eggs-ellent achievement Give it up with your poultry attempts at humour! Caerphilly Ram and IslandExile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Give it up with your poultry attempts at humour! Calm down Duck. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: You are another poster without a clue about what I feel about Derby County. Stick to making comments about the football mate. 👍 You make your feelings about all things Derby County crystal clear Roy , totally negative RoyMac5 and Dom Brady 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 26 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes I can. However I do tend to stick to comments about the football/players/manager, that's the difference. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit regarding anyone. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 30 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes I can. However I do tend to stick to comments about the football/players/manager, that's the difference. I have no problems with Roy having his opinions , but it would be nice to call a Truce for 2 weeks and celebrate promotion.Then we can start on the subject of recruitment. Tamworthram, Crewton, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, Kathcairns said: Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit regarding anyone. The end of that quote may well inadvertently work in @RoyMac5's favour however 😂 RoyMac5, DavesaRam and IslandExile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: The end of that quote may well inadvertently work in @RoyMac5's favour however 😂 We will never know cause nobody knows him ( or her).🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap04 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Kernow said: Teams that accumulate more points than 22 other sides in their division over the period of 46 games get promotion in the English football pyramid 100% of the time. That's the same as saying "because guys who win the lottery get rich 100% of the time them getting rich has nothing to do with luck". It just addresses the fact most points get promotion, not whether they were lucky to get these points. (Also if you think every league position is deserved ipso facto not sure why you'd use "not lucky" in your post to validate ours, top 2 would be enough in itself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, ap04 said: Not sure what your evidence is but I hope you trust mine as I've worked a bit on this. After 46 games the average percentage of lucky/unlucky games net for a team is precisely 9%. The maximum is over 20% -hard to believe I know. This is based on the standard +2 clear chances aggregate worthy of a win. The average discrepancy to the chances/goal average is 0.35, the maximum over 1. These can all be positive or negative. You understand what the above mean in terms of points, goals and league positions at the end of a season. Do you not think you're driving yourself insane here? The fact is the league is the result of 48 games, lasting 90mins over the course of nearly a year, playing home and away, with the same rules every time. As part of a sample that's quite comprehensive. If it comes to the last day and the second placed team hit the post and also are denied a clear penalty, meaning they only get 1 point. And you in third are given a goal which is offside and grab all 3 points, then that feels a massive swing of luck and/or deserved success. So, over the course of the season you attempt to chart/categorise these... and I don't think you can. Because there are too many intangibles, too many 'possible chances', possible mistakes, too many occasions someone 'could' have been sent off...or are given a corner they shouldn't or a free kick that was debatable. Or played good teams when they had lots of injuries or had a new manager or lots of games in a short space of time or or or... It's endless. So why try to compute it. There is a long enough sample time, and at the end of it someone gets promoted and everyone knows the rules at the start of it. The 2 with the most points go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Do you not think you're driving yourself insane here? The fact is the league is the result of 48 games, lasting 90mins over the course of nearly a year, playing home and away, with the same rules every time. As part of a sample that's quite comprehensive. If it comes to the last day and the second placed team hit the post and also are denied a clear penalty, meaning they only get 1 point. And you in third are given a goal which is offside and grab all 3 points, then that feels a massive swing of luck and/or deserved success. So, over the course of the season you attempt to chart/categorise these... and I don't think you can. Because there are too many intangibles, too many 'possible chances', possible mistakes, too many occasions someone 'could' have been sent off...or are given a corner they shouldn't or a free kick that was debatable. Or played good teams when they had lots of injuries or had a new manager or lots of games in a short space of time or or or... It's endless. So why try to compute it. There is a long enough sample time, and at the end of it someone gets promoted and everyone knows the rules at the start of it. The 2 with the most points go up. Not sure why you bother replying. Obvious troll I’ve had on ignore for quite a while. Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Do you not think you're driving yourself insane here? The fact is the league is the result of 48 games, lasting 90mins over the course of nearly a year, playing home and away, with the same rules every time. ☺️ Reggie Greenwood, Chester40 and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Not sure why you bother replying. Obvious troll I’ve had on ignore for quite a while. I did think of putting @ap04 on ignore but I find his posts and arguments unintentionally hilarious. Reggie Greenwood, Ram-Alf and DiggerB 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 45 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: The end of that quote may well inadvertently work in @RoyMac5's favour however 😂 I had a velvet jacket like that one in the 70s! I can't be that smart as I keep replying to all the trolls jibes. 😂 Perhaps someone could start a celebratory thread for Warney I'd leave you to it. 😉 Edited April 17 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I had a velvet jacket like that one in the 70s! I can't be that smart as I keep replying to all the trolls jibes. 😂 Perhaps someone could start a celebratory thread for Warney I'd leave you to it. 😉 Hope you arnt classing me as a troll.🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Well yes, how much I love Derby County. Any other points you are getting confused on are things like what I think about a player, or the manager or a style of play. They are different things you see. Is that plainer for you? I've only been a Rams fan for over 55 years so I know how fans can see things differently. Serious question, what was your first match you attended. Everyone remembers , mine seems like yesterday, wished it was.🐏. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap04 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Chester40 said: As part of a sample that's quite comprehensive. If you -or anyone else- think so I strongly suggest you read something like this (not dismiss it, try and understand it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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