How anal can you get about music?

[Bob The Badger]

I was watching the second season of Guilt last night.

Max had a vinyl copy of The Clash's first album, unimaginative called, The Clash.

He took it out and clearly and carefully placed the needle on the first track.

Ooo, I said to Mrs Badger, Janie Jones!

Then Police and Thieves came on, and I was apoplectic.

No effing way was that the first track on either side I screamed!

I couldn't remember what the first track was on the other side, but I knew it wasn't Police and Thieves.

So, I had to stop the program and Google it before I could relax.

I'm sure there are one or two of you in here who knew it was Career Opportunities.

That's pretty anal, right?

[Anag Ram]

If your Career Opportunities are pretty anal you have bigger worries than you thought.

[Bob The Badger]

27 minutes ago, Anag Ram said:

If your Career Opportunities are pretty anal you have bigger worries than you thought.

Ready when you are.

[Anag Ram]

We need to pay for a new striker somehow and this is our standard negotiating position.

[AndyinLiverpool]

48 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said:

I was watching the second season of Guilt last night.

Max had a vinyl copy of The Clash's first album, unimaginative called, The Clash.

He took it out and clearly and carefully placed the needle on the first track.

Ooo, I said to Mrs Badger, Janie Jones!

Then Police and Thieves came on, and I was apoplectic.

No effing way was that the first track on either side I screamed!

I couldn't remember what the first track was on the other side, but I knew it wasn't Police and Thieves.

So, I had to stop the program and Google it before I could relax.

I'm sure there are one or two of you in here who knew it was Career Opportunities.

That's pretty anal, right?

I had an import version, which I'm sure started with Clash City Rockers.

On neither version was Police and Thieves first up on either side.

[Bob The Badger]

1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

I had an import version, which I'm sure started with Clash City Rockers.

On neither version was Police and Thieves first up on either side.

I used to love buying imports.

Singles with different covers and B SIdes (The Jam did that a few times iirc) and albums with additional tracks.

Or even in the case of The Beat, a different name being called The English Beat because of a US band of the same name.

Now I'm thinking of all the super rare stuff I gave away, lost or sold for silly money. I had a Jam yellow flexi-dsc single that they only made 250 of and it went to fan club members that I lost.



 

[AndyinLiverpool]

1 minute ago, Bob The Badger said:

I used to love buying imports.

Singles with different covers and B SIdes (The Jam did that a few times iirc) and albums with additional tracks.

Or even in the case of The Beat, a different name being called The English Beat because of a US band of the same name.

Now I'm thinking of all the super rare stuff I gave away, lost or sold for silly money. I had a Jam yellow flexi-dsc single that they only made 250 of and it went to fan club members that I lost.



 

Ah flexi discs. I had a demo of 'Rudy can't fail', which I think had been sellotaped to the front of the NME.

Today's pop kids will say we're making it up.

[cstand]

Used to love looking around record shops years ago especially looking at album covers looking at the Artwork and the tracks listed.

When not watching the Rams on a Saturday it was my favourite past time.

 

[bimmerman]

Very, but usually about sub genres of metal

Don't be calling metalcore or death core thrash metal in my house.. 

Edited June 30, 2023 by bimmerman

[Poynton ram]

I can get a bit anal about what is and isn’t indie music

Stone Roses, Lush, Pale Saints yes, Kaiser Chiefs, Kings of Leon, Biffy Clyro no

 

I know it shouldn’t matter and good music is good music irrespective of the genre

 

 

[Eddie]

On 30/06/2023 at 15:27, AndyinLiverpool said:

Ah flexi discs. I had a demo of 'Rudy can't fail', which I think had been sellotaped to the front of the NME.

Today's pop kids will say we're making it up.

I had a Monty Python flexi-disc - also from NME. "Tiny black round thing". It was a promo for "Live at Drury Lane" - election special etc.

I can still recite it, pretty well word for word.

[Foreveram]

20 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I had a Monty Python flexi-disc - also from NME. "Tiny black round thing". It was a promo for "Live at Drury Lane" - election special etc.

I can still recite it, pretty well word for word.

Oh no you can’t.😂

[ariotofmyown]

On 30/06/2023 at 13:59, AndyinLiverpool said:

I had an import version, which I'm sure started with Clash City Rockers.

On neither version was Police and Thieves first up on either side.

I had that cd and never realised it was an import. Listened to it so much and loved it so much. Later found out that the band hated it and a record company had just put a load of tracks out!

Actually, similar story with The Complete Stone Roses.  Love that more than the first album as it was the one I got into! Didn't buy that one for ages!

Edited July 2, 2023 by ariotofmyown

[AndyinLiverpool]

1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said:

I had that cd and never realised it was an import. Listened to it so much and loved it so much. Later found out that the band hated it and a record company had just put a load of tracks out!

Actually, similar story with The Complete Stone Roses.  Love that more than the first album as it was the one I got into! Didn't buy that one for ages!

The record company put a load of non-album singles (remember when bands did those) - the aforementioned Clash City Rockers, White Man in Hammersmith Palais, Complete Control, I fought the Law) to 'break America', although by the time of its release in the US, the UK version had sold shedloads as an import to the US.

How anal?

[Comrade 86]

Heartily agree with OP.

Googled 'furious' + 'anal' for a suitable gif to express my ire, but sadly the results were not quite what I'd expected.

🙈

[Bob The Badger]

OMFG, it got worse last night.

Jake started talking about 'this was the album that many people think heralded the end of punk', and he still had the first album in his hand.

Maybe he meant London Calling, I dunno, but their first album did not signal the end of punk. Not that any one album did, anyway.

Then he started banging on about the Clash playing a gig on 23rd July 1984 which was the first time he saw them live. I looked it up because that happens to be my birthday, and as we now know, I'm anal af.

They never played a gig on that date.

They did in 1985, but it was in Athens.

Then more mumblings about The Clash selling out to a major label when The Clash was on a ducking major label all the effing time. They signed to CBS from the get-go

I'd had enough by then, so I took a sledgehammer to the TV, set fire to the remains and then stormed off to bed to sulk leaving Mrs Badger somewhat perplexed.

[Anon]

On 30/06/2023 at 20:26, bimmerman said:

Very, but usually about sub genres of metal

Don't be calling metalcore or death core thrash metal in my house.. 

I can't keep track of all the sub genres nowadays. Post post math metal core, neo gothic shoegaze etc... I swear music journalists just invent them to sound important.

[bimmerman]

1 hour ago, Anon said:

I can't keep track of all the sub genres nowadays. Post post math metal core, neo gothic shoegaze etc... I swear music journalists just invent them to sound important.

I found out about pornocore the other day and that I think is where I draw the line

[cstand]

The Future Yard in Liverpool have a craft beer and record vinyl event 19th August. Would be nice if we had this type event at Derby at the Chocolate Factory.
 

https://futureyard.org/listings/crate-market-8/?fbclid=IwAR2hNvsUDEgcuFAq5chUoJeq5dALVBHbzbMn4ua18rAc7hZwWgZx3lshrdA_aem_AStqhfZ6nDGIEysil-Sv5MKOkZp3NmrAPhKuI_Riz2fOPyvEWtpY9l5qBB0YXgdyUoDx1Xe-sOaAlj3qEopPudgE

[therealhantsram]

On 02/07/2023 at 18:49, Bob The Badger said:

OMFG, it got worse last night.

Jake started talking about 'this was the album that many people think heralded the end of punk', and he still had the first album in his hand.

Maybe he meant London Calling, I dunno, but their first album did not signal the end of punk. Not that any one album did, anyway.

Then he started banging on about the Clash playing a gig on 23rd July 1984 which was the first time he saw them live. I looked it up because that happens to be my birthday, and as we now know, I'm anal af.

They never played a gig on that date.

They did in 1985, but it was in Athens.

Then more mumblings about The Clash selling out to a major label when The Clash was on a ducking major label all the effing time. They signed to CBS from the get-go

I'd had enough by then, so I took a sledgehammer to the TV, set fire to the remains and then stormed off to bed to sulk leaving Mrs Badger somewhat perplexed.

That's poor when it sounds like such a major dialogue point. It should have been fact checked.

Richard Osman tells a nice story about how his publishers have a team of fact checkers that work through the stuff he puts in his novels.

In his first book mentions a trip to Waitrose in Tunbridge Wells. Turns out nobody thought to fact check that. Seems like to most Waitrose town you could imagine. 

And yet apparently there is no Waitrose in Tunbridge Wells, and he ended up being bombarded with letters pointing this out.

So I guess people to get anal about all sorts of stuff. And when facts are wrong it spoils the illusion TV, film and novels are trying to create. This stuff is important to get right and any decent production ought to have done much better than you are suggesting they did.