Day Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I know RamsTrust leads to somewhat of a divisive conversation on here, but they have appointed a new chair and vice chair for those that are interested. https://ramstrust.org.uk/wp/new-chair-and-vice-chair-appointed/ angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overlandandsea Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Who voted in this new election? How come someone is co-opted as second in command and not from the existing board? Is being a member of the Labour Party an un-written pre-requisite of joining RT, as they seem to be Labour councillors, Labour election candidates etc? Comrade 86, David Graham Brown and Betty Swollocks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swollocks Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, overlandandsea said: Who voted in this new election? How come someone is co-opted as second in command and not from the existing board? Is being a member of the Labour Party an un-written pre-requisite of joining RT, as they seem to be Labour councillors, Labour election candidates etc? It certainly seems to be doesn`t it? I dare say that you would get the standard soundbyte reply of "All are welcome to apply to the board" but in reality as the history of RT suggests, unless your face fits and you vote a certain way, you don`t stand a chance. Its a closed shop, or at least that`s how it seems. I`m sure that they preach diversity and agree with it, so why appoint people to the board with different politcal perspectives? After all, this should be about DCFC not politics? overlandandsea and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, overlandandsea said: Who voted in this new election? How come someone is co-opted as second in command and not from the existing board? Is being a member of the Labour Party an un-written pre-requisite of joining RT, as they seem to be Labour councillors, Labour election candidates etc? RamsTrust members elect the Board, the Board then elects the officials. This is standard policy for all community benefit societies and charities. We are guided on this by the Football Supporters Association - FSA. We chose Hilary as Chair as she was already vice-chair - a unanimous choice. Unfortunately no one else on the Board could take on the role of vice-chair and we need one so we co-opted Jim Coyle back onto Board - he will have to stand for re-election at next AGM if he wants to continue. He has been on RamsTrust Board previously and has experience as vice-chair. All DCFC supporters can join RamsTrust, providing they agree with the aims and objectives - which are primarily around fan representation and good governance. For example we are staunch supporters of implementing the changes outlined in the Fan-led review and are eagerly awaiting the publication of the Government White Paper with interest. It's only £2 to join RamsTrust. We are very keen to get more supporters actively involved. You have to be a member for six months to vote in elections. As our next AGM is in September now would be a good time to do that if you want to get involved - full details at https://ramstrust.org.uk/wp/ I can't really answer your question about the Labour Party as we are not a political organisation per se. It could be that as a co-operative (one member, one vote) and given our aims and objectives we attract people who have a tendency towards that viewpoint, but that is just speculation on my part. What I would say is that there is definitely NO requirement to be a member of any political party. We do have several business people on the current Board, I think we are working towards as broad a representation as possible, really. LeedsCityRam, Miggins, David Graham Brown and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overlandandsea Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 So is Jim no longer involved? Just a few weeks ago he was being introduced as RT chair at the We Are Derby launch event and made no attempt to correct it. Is this no longer a RT project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swollocks Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 So "anyone can join as long as they agree with the aims and objectives!!" Basically no free thinkers or new ideas allowed. Its our way or the highway? Sounds fantastic! LazloW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 They aren’t forcing anyone to join. If you don’t want guitar lessons then don’t have guitar lessons. SaffyRam, DiggerB, tomsdubs and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Boycie said: They aren’t forcing anyone to join. If you don’t want guitar lessons then don’t have guitar lessons. You are stringing us along now. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Boycie said: They aren’t forcing anyone to join. If you don’t want guitar lessons then don’t have guitar lessons. Afternoon Ricky.. David Graham Brown and Boycie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, i-Ram said: You are stringing us along now. Stop harping on about it.. David Graham Brown and i-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Puns galore! Take yer pick. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Yeah I'm starting to fret about it.. David Graham Brown, Rev and Steve How Hard? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swollocks Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Boycie said: They aren’t forcing anyone to join. If you don’t want guitar lessons then don’t have guitar lessons. Correct, it isn`t a guitar lesson, its a group who claim to have the best interests of DCFC at heart, which in itself is fine, and something that I`m sure 99%-100% of DCFC supporters want. However, it seems, that unless you agree completely with their mantra, and have a certain political viewpoint, you wont be welcome. This surely is bordering on authoritarian and discriminatory? Up to them obviously if they want to make it like that, but equally they cant complain when sections of supporters criticise? ariotofmyown, David Graham Brown, LazloW and 5 others 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 In fairness, I'm not sure if I was the head of the Derbyshire Rabbit Appreciation Society that I'd be wildly keen on an influx of new members who strongly disagreed with the basic premise of 'We are the DRAS and we really like rabbits' ? Crewton, LazloW, DarkFruitsRam7 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Alty_Ram said: In fairness, I'm not sure if I was the head of the Derbyshire Rabbit Appreciation Society that I'd be wildly keen on an influx of new members who strongly disagreed with the basic premise of 'We are the DRAS and we really like rabbits' ? Hare today gone tomorrow.. Alty_Ram, DarkFruitsRam7, David Graham Brown and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Betty Swollocks said: Correct, it isn`t a guitar lesson, its a group who claim to have the best interests of DCFC at heart, which in itself is fine, and something that I`m sure 99%-100% of DCFC supporters want. However, it seems, that unless you agree completely with their mantra, and have a certain political viewpoint, you wont be welcome. This surely is bordering on authoritarian and discriminatory? Up to them obviously if they want to make it like that, but equally they cant complain when sections of supporters criticise? David Graham Brown and Comrade 86 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Betty Swollocks said: Correct, it isn`t a guitar lesson, its a group who claim to have the best interests of DCFC at heart, which in itself is fine, and something that I`m sure 99%-100% of DCFC supporters want. However, it seems, that unless you agree completely with their mantra, and have a certain political viewpoint, you wont be welcome. This surely is bordering on authoritarian and discriminatory? Up to them obviously if they want to make it like that, but equally they cant complain when sections of supporters criticise? Be like me, don’t care what they’re doing, it’s doesn’t effect me. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Boycie said: Be like me, don’t care what they’re doing, it’s doesn’t effect me. You need to stomp this attitude out now. I can hear a chorus of people agreeing with me. Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, overlandandsea said: Who voted in this new election? How come someone is co-opted as second in command and not from the existing board? Is being a member of the Labour Party an un-written pre-requisite of joining RT, as they seem to be Labour councillors, Labour election candidates etc? I must admit there does seem a lot of lefties at the top. May be it’s a bit of a conspiracy to keep the right wing of the supporters group out. At the end of the day we all support the same club. People like these kind of things but I’m more of an Indian than a Chief. Comrade 86 and LazloW 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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