CORNERS

[Millenniumram]

Duck me, my Nan could hit a better delivery and she’s only got one leg

[PistoldPete]

20 minutes ago, Millenniumram said:

Duck me, my Nan could hit a better delivery and she’s only got one leg

You sound like Geoff Boycott.

[nottingram]

should try one of these

[Blondest Goat]

We did have a spell shortly after Cocu got sacked where we looked dangerous every time we had one.  Think Shay Given was credited with improving out threat wasnt he?

It didn't last though and we have been  very poor for ages now.

[Anag Ram]

It doesn’t help that we are so poor at heading accurately 

[ramit]

Much work yet to be done and that really shouldn't surprise anyone. 

i will worry if the same problems are recurring 10 games from now.

[SSD]

After only training together as a group for four/five weeks, I think attacking corners would be one of the last on the training drill list. I'll let them off for now.

[rammieib]

The Corner set up was the only positive bit of Shay Given coaching for me as yes, we did look threatening under him.

Given the fact this season we may win a lot of corners, I’d like to think in training this week we can try something different and be a little more creative?

[kevinhectoring]

5 hours ago, nottingram said:

should try one of these

But why is that a bad corner routine? At least it’s different. We’ve not seen anything different in a set piece routine since shay given left. Total lack of imagination and creativity. The oppo look at the tape from the last 5 games and know what to expect. 
If today is anything to go by we’ll see a lot of parked buses this season and the plan will be to hit us on the break. We need to find novel options from set pieces 

Edited August 6, 2022 by kevinhectoring

[Anag Ram]

I wouldn’t let Hourihane take them.

I’d have him on the edge of the box waiting for the inevitable defensive clearance. 

Let Knight take the corners.

[nottingram]

7 hours ago, kevinhectoring said:

But why is that a bad corner routine? At least it’s different. We’ve not seen anything different in a set piece routine since shay given left. Total lack of imagination and creativity. The oppo look at the tape from the last 5 games and know what to expect. 
If today is anything to go by we’ll see a lot of parked buses this season and the plan will be to hit us on the break. We need to find novel options from set pieces 

Probably because the keeper has all the time in the world to catch it completely unchallenged, because all the Forest players are in a different postcode?

There is different and there is crap

[kevinhectoring]

29 minutes ago, nottingram said:

Probably because the keeper has all the time in the world to catch it completely unchallenged, because all the Forest players are in a different postcode?

There is different and there is crap

I was talking about the routine not the execution  It won’t always work but would love to see us doing something imaginative like that 

Edited August 7, 2022 by kevinhectoring

[angieram]

8 hours ago, Anag Ram said:

I wouldn’t let Hourihane take them.

I’d have him on the edge of the box waiting for the inevitable defensive clearance. 

Let Knight take the corners.

Sibley takes great corners, whips them in with pace.

[Magicman]

8 hours ago, Anag Ram said:

I wouldn’t let Hourihane take them.

I’d have him on the edge of the box waiting for the inevitable defensive clearance. 

Let Knight take the corners.

Bird takes a better corner 

[FindernRam]

Corners are seriously overrated in this country. The conversion rate across the PL is 3%. 

Just a waste of training time as an attacking tactic. You'd be better off knocking it back to your goalkeeper and starting the attack again.

[Blondest Goat]

37 minutes ago, FindernRam said:

Corners are seriously overrated in this country. The conversion rate across the PL is 3%. 

Just a waste of training time as an attacking tactic. You'd be better off knocking it back to your goalkeeper and starting the attack again.

I'm sure there were plenty of times last season when we went back to the keeper within 5 passes following a corner. 

[rammieib]

47 minutes ago, FindernRam said:

Corners are seriously overrated in this country. The conversion rate across the PL is 3%. 

Just a waste of training time as an attacking tactic. You'd be better off knocking it back to your goalkeeper and starting the attack again.

Which is why you need some level of creativity from them. The pull back along the floor which is dummied, mass overloading at the back post, 5 players around the GK, three players work a short corner etc

Corners especially are the one time during the game that the defensive team are not only properly set up but have everyone back to defend. It’s no wonder the conversion rate is so poor.

If you are going to put it in, Everything should be about winning the second ball - a header back across from the back stick for instance because once the ball has bypassed you, everyone including defenders watch the ball, human instinct, you don’t watch a man. This is the opportunity to escape a marker.

[FindernRam]

1 hour ago, rammieib said:

Which is why you need some level of creativity from them. The pull back along the floor which is dummied, mass overloading at the back post, 5 players around the GK, three players work a short corner etc

Corners especially are the one time during the game that the defensive team are not only properly set up but have everyone back to defend. It’s no wonder the conversion rate is so poor.

If you are going to put it in, Everything should be about winning the second ball - a header back across from the back stick for instance because once the ball has bypassed you, everyone including defenders watch the ball, human instinct, you don’t watch a man. This is the opportunity to escape a marker.

Sounds simple, but if the top teams in the world with the best coaches can't do it better than 3 times in a hundred, what chance do we stand?

From the plethora stats I found there was a team in 17/18 season that hit 10%--West Brom, over double the next best team that season. Get hold of the videos someone.

My view when we win a corner....meh!

[Ambitious]

We should just go for short corners, mix it up and try and create a better opportunity. Whatever we’re doing now isn’t working. 14 corners and no attempt on goal- in fact I think one led directly to their goal. 

[ramit]

i think the faster central defender should hang back and the lurker outside the penalty area should ideally be a quick central midfielder who is not shy to take long shots.