angieram Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Sat in the bar in the holiday inn hotel (as you do) team bus just pulled up for pre match meal. Spoke to Jake Buxton cos he was at School with my kids, had a few words with Cashin, said he was looking forward to it, spoke to NML told him I thought he’s had a good couple of games so far, my wife’s busy getting autographs for my grandson but she’s no idea who any of the players are. Was going to have an afternoon nap but that’s not going to happen now ? I can just picture her scurrying round! What she lacks in knowledge, she makes up for in enthusiasm. ? Say hi from me - to your wife, not the players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, angieram said: I hope we don't do that, as I'd like to see us mix it up a bit, so we can see how some of the youngsters play alongside the more experienced new signings. Otherwise, what do we learn? For example, Cashin at the side of Chester, Stretton and Sibley playing off McGoldrick. But you may well be right. Missed opportunity, if so. Definitely see your point - there’s no real way of judging if young players are ready when they’re just playing alongside other youngsters / reserves. The side probably won’t be good enough, with the young players struggling to make an impact. But if you instead play the odd young player within a majority first choice team, then you can see if they’re capable of fitting in at that level. Playing with better players can often see younger players raise their game, and prove they’re ready to step up. It would certainly be interesting to see while we have the chance, you’re right. But then, I guess there’s also the argument that we need to build partnerships between the new signings, hence why Rosenior might want to keep the first choice team together, so they get used to playing with each other. I mean, pre-season is ultimately about fitness, and I think that’s how Liam views it, based on the comments I’ve heard from him. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, angieram said: I can just picture her scurrying round! What she lacks in knowledge, she makes up for in enthusiasm. ? Say hi from me - to your wife, not the players! Yes, she does nowt for me but will do anything for the grandkids, she says hi . She’s going across to the Mecca bingo tonight while I’m at the match. angieram and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Definitely see your point - there’s no real way of judging if young players are ready when they’re just playing alongside other youngsters / reserves. The side probably won’t be good enough, with the young players struggling to make an impact. But if you instead play the odd young player within a majority first choice team, then you can see if they’re capable of fitting in at that level. Playing with better players can often see younger players raise their game, and prove they’re ready to step up. It would certainly be interesting to see while we have the chance, you’re right. But then, I guess there’s also the argument that we need to build partnerships between the new signings, hence why Rosenior might want to keep the first choice team together, so they get used to playing with each other. I mean, pre-season is ultimately about fitness, and I think that’s how Liam views it, based on the comments I’ve heard from him. Get that point of view, but just as a devil’s advocate… the best will still shine through, even if it’s average in a poor display because of the calibre of teammates. Add to that the staff see them every day training and have done for years… I’m sure they have a good idea. Millenniumram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, angieram said: I hope we don't do that, as I'd like to see us mix it up a bit, so we can see how some of the youngsters play alongside the more experienced new signings. Otherwise, what do we learn? For example, Cashin at the side of Chester, Stretton and Sibley playing off McGoldrick. But you may well be right. Missed opportunity, if so. I suspect it’s more of a fitness thing. We played pretty much the first XI for 60 minutes on Saturday, and will probably want to do the same for 75 minutes next Saturday. So there’s no way we start any of those players 3 times in a week in preseason, given their ages and the hot conditions etc. I’d expect the senior players who didn’t play more than 30 minutes on Saturday to start this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Srg said: Get that point of view, but just as a devil’s advocate… the best will still shine through, even if it’s average in a poor display because of the calibre of teammates. Add to that the staff see them every day training and have done for years… I’m sure they have a good idea. An outstanding talent has the ability to drag an entire team up, that is true. But I think most players would struggle to shine in a poor performance. You’re right about training though, the staff should know who’s ready ti an extent, even if they’ve never played a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Foreveram said: Air conditioned restaurant drinking sangria blanco and eating churros this is what retirement is about. Absolutely- I retired just over a year after 30 years of being a nurse in the NHS, you can’t beat it ??? Mine’s a Red Stripe though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said: Any old fan or a Derby fan? Turn up if you want mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 angieram, jono, RoyMac5 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 That’s a stronger team than I was expecting. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Amadou Diallo ? Interesting. No McGoldrick or Chester though, guess we're looking after them a little here. No Korey Smith either, which is a bit of a surprise. Not surprised it's a strong team, and as it stands, probably pretty close to what we'll see vs. Oxford Utd. Edited July 19, 2022 by Animal is a Ram jono and Ellafella 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScamRam Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Thats tough, 3 players will have to play the full 90, in this heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 4-2-3-1 is it? Sibley in the #10 role with NML & Knight wide. Hourihane & Thompson as a two in the centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ScamRam said: Thats tough, 3 players will have to play the full 90, in this heat Imagine there'll be a water break in each half, if not two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcreece1601 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: That’s a stronger team than I was expecting. It should be a strong team every week. With the amount of new players we have, we should be playing the starting 11 regular so they gel jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Hopefully just resting Chester and Mcgoldrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rampant said: 4-2-3-1 is it? Sibley in the #10 role with NML & Knight wide. Hourihane & Thompson as a two in the centre. I disagree with it but I think it's highly likely Knight at 10 and sibley wide left. Doesn't suit either of them particularly I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Sibley is a #10 for me or a CM if needs be. Not sure he's likely to be effective in any other role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rampant said: Sibley is a #10 for me or a CM if needs be. Not sure he's likely to be effective in any other role. Oh I agree but I'm not convinced that's where we will see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: 6 from last season plus 5 new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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