Tyler Durden Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, PistoldPete said: I do not see anything phoney about it. Admin team need to strike a quick deal and cannot fight the FFP thing for another several months as it could delay the sales process. EFL on the other hand stand to lose big time if they lose the administration appeal, as it may seta precedent. So we do a deal. Makes sense to me. I'm not happy about 15 points deduction as i think that is excessive but if it helps the admin team and they secure a sale I will accept it. We'll never know now whether Covid could be justifiably argued now or not as the reason we went into administration. I'll have to find something else to obsess over now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: And I guess we save ourselves 300 grand if the appeal process is never actually started Fingers crossed, although it may be too late. Tyler Durden and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: We'll never know now whether Covid could be justifiably argued now or not as the reason we went into administration. I'll have to find something else to obsess over now ? Well I think if there is a deal being done it means neither side knew what the outcome would be. And I never said I did. Just that we had a good case and if we didnt I don't think EFL would do a deal. Tyler Durden and Indy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Well I think we should keep appealing until we get our way like banker efl and gibson did to us. Maybe in normal circusmatnces b4 yes, but we need to close a deal to sell the club. We just cannot risk that not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Nixson just tweeted penalty points on ice more news shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, I know nuffin said: Nixson just tweeted penalty points on ice more news shortly We have to wait for Nixon to read the Daily Telegraph. MackworthRamIsGod and LazloW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Well I think if there is a deal being done it means neither side knew what the outcome would be. And I never said I did. Just that we had a good case and if we didnt I don't think EFL would do a deal. Pretty much this. EFL would have been left with a huge egg omolette on their face through Force Majuere if DCFC would have won...a good chance imo. The EFL had a joker to play with FFP The Admin team, Have called into question the rules and appeals procedure by appealing...this has "SHOCKED" the EFL Now it would appear there needs to be a face saving excersise by the EFL imo So a deal will be struck by the looks of it, If it's a -15 and a quicker sale...then go for it...and let the season begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 If we had our administration deduction reduced, then it sets a slippery precedent for the EFL with regards to other clubs. It's possible we could have done a "deal" where we take the full admin deduction on the chin, in return for a reduced punishment on the -9 that is reportedly imminent. That was reported that it may drop to -3, which may be the overall bargaining ground. -15 as a total punishment may be something we look to accept. And for the EFL it would save face more than issuing us the full -9, but having our admin deduction reduce that to -6 to make up the same -15 in a different way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: We have to wait for Nixon to read the Daily Telegraph. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: The EFL quote doesn't make sense does it? Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, I know nuffin said: Nixson just tweeted penalty points on ice more news shortly Please not until next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: The EFL quote doesn't make sense does it? The guy from BBC Simon Stone I think has tweeted saying it’s been delayed … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 EFL may have overplayed their hand here. If they are concerned about the admin deduction and are tying to strike a deal, I hope Mr Hoskings goes for the jugular. We concede the force majeure claim if they concede ERV not expressly outlawed. 12 points, no more and we'll let it go would be my stance, but conversely, we really need a deal done to sell the club... I wonder who will blink first? Reggie Greenwood, Ram-Alf, Ramarena and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: EFL may have overplayed their hand here. If they are concerned about the admin deduction and are tying to strike a deal, I hope Mr Hoskings goes for the jugular. We concede the force majeure claim if they concede ERV not expressly outlawed. 12 points, no more and we'll let it go would be my stance, but conversely, we really need a deal done to sell the club... I wonder who will blink first? Mr Hoskins pulling a rabbit out of the hat Comrade 86 and Elgin_Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Im hoping it will be less than 15 Comrade 86, The Scarlet Pimpernel and Gritstone Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: EFL may have overplayed their hand here. If they are concerned about the admin deduction and are tying to strike a deal, I hope Mr Hoskings goes for the jugular. We concede the force majeure claim if they concede ERV not expressly outlawed. 12 points, no more and we'll let it go would be my stance, but conversely, we really need a deal done to sell the club... I wonder who will blink first? The amortisation stuff is done and dusted having gone through all of the various appeals processes. We've had our punishment for it, end of story, no go-backs unless the EFL are feeling very generous and decide to revisit a past decision they've already won! It's fully in the EFL's control at this point to make things as easy or difficult for us as possible. If they want to draw it out they can, but it would seriously endanger the sale and therefore the existence of the club. So us. Edited November 8, 2021 by Coconut's Beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Wouldn't get my hopes up. They just postpone it until the end of the season so they know how many points they have to take away from us to seal the relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Mr Hoskins pulling a rabbit out of the hat I'm thinking more Mr Wolf than Roger Rabbit... Edited November 8, 2021 by 86 Hair Islands Tyler Durden and I know nuffin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I think 15 might be acceptable or 12 with 3 suspended as long as we are allowed to sign some players in January. The ability to sign new players or give current players new contracts has never been clear to me. Interestingly Nixon said he pulled a story in the sun yesterday because of something happening this week but also said something like the EFL sorting it out this week. Apparently kircher liked that tweet. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) They’ve obviously decided they were wrong about everything and have agreed to rescind the whole points deduction. Well played EFL. Edited November 8, 2021 by LazloW Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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