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10 Year Net Spend Comparison?


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Here's an odd one:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/middlesbrough-fc/revealed-middlesbroughs-shock-net-spend-over-10-years-compared-Derby-county-and-stoke-city-2994312

Assume based on transfer dealings and assumed prices only.

TLDR: Brentford best with +£81m, Derby 17th with -£60m, Stoke worst with -£160m

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It's absolutely miles off. We have spent roughly £60-80m on transfers in the past decade so it would mean we have made next to nothing on player sales at all and I believe we've roughly made a profit of about £5m in the past four years. 

My best guess would be closer to £25m net loss over the past decade, baring in mind we didn't start spending until 2014/15. 

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9 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

It's absolutely miles off. We have spent roughly £60-80m on transfers in the past decade so it would mean we have made next to nothing on player sales at all and I believe we've roughly made a profit of about £5m in the past four years. 

My best guess would be closer to £25m net loss over the past decade, baring in mind we didn't start spending until 2014/15. 

yep looks complete BS when you look at transfermarkt.  Tempted to suggest this thread is locked given it looks like lies

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Last 10 years ins and outs according to transfermarkt.com

10/11 - Ins = £1.45m Outs = £1.19m

11/12 - Ins =  £1.19 Outs = £0.7m

12/13 -Ins = £3.26m Outs = £2.1m

13/14 -Ins = £1.49m Outs = £2.4m

14/15 -Ins = £2.71m Outs = £0

15/16 -Ins = £30.6m  Outs = £0

16/17 -Ins = £15.4m Outs = £14.63m

17/18 -Ins = £11m Outs = £19.1m

18/19 -Ins = £12.58m  Outs = £13m

19/20 - Ins = £7.38m Outs = £1.2m

20/21-Ins = £3.8m Outs = £6.9m

Total ins £93m

Total outs £61m

Net £32m

who knows how accurate this is?

 

 

 

 

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What an absolute garbage article. Designed to make Boro fans even more angry at Derby. Numbers seem to be plucked out of mid air and I guess ours have also been adjusted after the article which is why we're listed 17th when the number given would put us in 20th place. What an absolute rag that paper must be to have to put out something like this and call it "journalism".

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1 hour ago, Orphanram said:

Last 10 years ins and outs according to transfermarkt.com

10/11 - Ins = £1.45m Outs = £1.19m

11/12 - Ins =  £1.19 Outs = £0.7m

12/13 -Ins = £3.26m Outs = £2.1m

13/14 -Ins = £1.49m Outs = £2.4m

14/15 -Ins = £2.71m Outs = £0

15/16 -Ins = £30.6m  Outs = £0

16/17 -Ins = £15.4m Outs = £14.63m

17/18 -Ins = £11m Outs = £19.1m

18/19 -Ins = £12.58m  Outs = £13m

19/20 - Ins = £7.38m Outs = £1.2m

20/21-Ins = £3.8m Outs = £6.9m

Total ins £93m

Total outs £61m

Net £32m

who knows how accurate this is?

 

 

 

 

We sold Bogle and Lowe for a reported £11m, although there is a bit of controversy regarding that figure I would doubt that £6.9m is correct.  I'm also assuming that 19/20 outs doesn't factor in Delap that went for roughly £1.5m. 

As for the 15/16 season: I've got Johnson (£6m), Ince (£4.75m), Butterfield (£4m), Shackell (£3m), Weimann (£2.75m), Blackman (£2.5m), Camara (£1.25m) and Olsson (£500k) - which is £24.75m so no idea where the other £5.25m has been extracted from. 

I would say without digging into the others then you would probably find similar disparities. I'd say our net is well below £30m considering all of the above. 

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Conveniently forgetting Watford, Cardiff and the FFP cheats of yesteryear QPR and Bournemouth then. What a BS headline.

All of them including Boro have had time in  the top division and years of parachute payments and still lost 30-100 million a piece.

Other clubs have apparently lost 17 million, despite sending players to parent clubs on fictitious fees and writing off 37 million debt on ownership change 

That's truly shocking.

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15 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Conveniently forgetting Watford, Cardiff and the FFP cheats of yesteryear QPR and Bournemouth then. What a BS headline.

All of them including Boro have had time in  the top division and years of parachute payments and still lost 30-100 million a piece.

Other clubs have apparently lost 17 million, despite sending players to parent clubs on fictitious fees and writing off 37 million debt on ownership change 

That's truly shocking.

It's net transfer spend, not net profit/loss.. although in the first 4 of Bournemouth 5 season in the PL they made a net loss of over £25m, and Watford made a loss of over £13m over the same period. Over Swansea's final 5 years they made a combined loss of £10m, whereas Stoke lost £17.9m over their final 4 seasons.

Cardiff made a small loss of less than £1m, QPR broke even in their most recent season up there, Norwich made a modest £9.5m profit, Boro £11.5m, Huddersfield £33.5m over 2 seasons.

Forest made a loss of over £25m in 18/19, and appear to have relied on selling academy graduates and a friendly club in Greece to meet P&S restrictions.

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Those figures seem way off. We tend to, at the very least, break even in terms of transfer fees most windows nowadays. Some years we’ve made big profits as well, like this summer. That sort of headline just adds to the myth that we’re “big spenders”, which we haven’t been since Clement was in charge. Almost every other move has been funded by player sales. Our FFP problems have never been down to our transfer dealings directly, it’s always been to do with wages.

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4 hours ago, Orphanram said:

Last 10 years ins and outs according to transfermarkt.com

10/11 - Ins = £1.45m Outs = £1.19m

11/12 - Ins =  £1.19 Outs = £0.7m

12/13 -Ins = £3.26m Outs = £2.1m

13/14 -Ins = £1.49m Outs = £2.4m

14/15 -Ins = £2.71m Outs = £0

15/16 -Ins = £30.6m  Outs = £0

16/17 -Ins = £15.4m Outs = £14.63m

17/18 -Ins = £11m Outs = £19.1m

18/19 -Ins = £12.58m  Outs = £13m

19/20 - Ins = £7.38m Outs = £1.2m

20/21-Ins = £3.8m Outs = £6.9m

Total ins £93m

Total outs £61m

Net £32m

who knows how accurate this is?

It doesn’t include the fees for Delap, Lampard and Rowett which accounts for £9,000,000.

I think it inflates older fees and some are inaccurate but it’s a fair guide. 

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