DazaDunn Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Really? Did he say owt? Yes he told Ibe and Duncan to mentor Clarke so he can learn the rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Many a good season has been on the back of a very poor start like this one but usually players get playing on the back of the Derby crowd urging them on - that is a huge difference - it’s like sleep walking in pre season friendlies currently whilst I am at it - playing with 2 defensive midfielders gives all the wrong messages to me before a ball is kicked and personally I wouldn’t want any with some combative midfielders in the middle and 2 centre forwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coconut said: You've basically just become a spammer Ha ha! You're the one 'counting posts' and offering fake stats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Coconut said: You've basically just become a spanner FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ha ha! You're the one 'counting posts' and offering fake stats! ...which makes me a spanner, but alas... you're still a spammer. Even if I mangled the figures somewhat, you're still obsessively posting the same diatribe about Martin's contract on nearly every thread you comment on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I think it’s a fair question actually and I say this as someone whose been/is happy for Cocu to have time. I’ve already discussed this with Roy on another thread but I think we saw some cause for concern yesterday. Firstly the significance of the interview after the game hasn’t really been mentioned, it’s actually a potentially big moment in his tenure as he’s basically asking the team to get behind him. Secondly was Cocus manner during the game, usually he is reserved and issues the occasional instruction. But yesterday he was openly calling players out on the touch line For not pressing and closing down when Blackburn had the ball, he was very agitated at times. This has given me cause for concern. I hope I’m over estimating the significance, but I can’t say I’m not worried. Im hoping he gets a reaction from the players because the next five games could be vital for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lander Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I don’t think he’s lost the dressing room as such, but it seems that the players, collectively, were lacking passion and that basic work rate you expect at the very least. Those two things have to be created by the management team (not just the manager) so in that sense there’s a lot that needs to change, I hope it does very soon otherwise I fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 How can anyone vote ‘yes’ with any degree of uncertainty? Do you all take it in turns to be Rammy or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Totally fair point to raise and done in a way that is a masterclass in stirring?. I’ve no idea but I would hazard a complete guess at quite possibly. There’s some unhappy people in that changing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 It's quite obvious what has happened imo. Without the incentive of a Twan hug, the team has gone off the boil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Even if it wasn’t a meaningless cliche, the only people who know what the morale is in the club, or whether the players fully respect and/or listen to Cocu are the players and coaches. So it’s a bit of a pointless question, that leads only to pointless speculation, which only leads to (yet) another de facto ‘Cocu out’ thread. Pointless speculation is, of course, the bread and butter of a football forum , but in the midst of all the other diatribe about Cocu, this is just getting a bit dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 To answer seriously. No one has any idea so ultimately I think it’s quite a pointless discussion. But I do think it is the sort of irresponsible thread that someone will read and say “wow yeah Cocu has lost the dressing room.” Then they post it on Twitter and before you know it you have a little snowball that keeps on growing. And that is not a good thing. Maybe that’s melodramatic of me but that seems to be the order of the weekend anyway so I hope it helps me fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Are we getting rid of the ram and adopting the lemming as people seem to be prepared to throw themselves off a cliff. Not the best start but it’s only 3 games in. We do not have the team that we want at the moment but we will. Still think ? a top 6 is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, LazloW said: the only people who know what the morale is in the club, or whether the players fully respect and/or listen to Cocu are the players and coaches. You reckon the fans can't see some of it on the pitch? This is just a poll to gauge what fans are thinking about this situation. I was surprised by the stuff Cocu came out with in his interviews yesterday, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Oh why not? Do you think Cocu is gonna read this and run off and hide?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, nottingram said: To answer seriously. No one has any idea so ultimately I think it’s quite a pointless discussion. But I do think it is the sort of irresponsible thread that someone will read and say “wow yeah Cocu has lost the dressing room.” Then they post it on Twitter and before you know it you have a little snowball that keeps on growing. And that is not a good thing. Maybe that’s melodramatic of me but that seems to be the order of the weekend anyway so I hope it helps me fit in. And so we will be able to sack Cocu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: And so we will be able to sack Cocu? I’m not sure I follow your train of thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Despite how we've played .. there's no tangible evidence he as .. but wouldn't be surprised if he had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Seems a bit bizarre for some to be having a crack at the op for asking the question that many are privately thinking,isn't that one of the points of the forum,to encourage discussion? Be a bit dull otherwise and it's not as if there isn't a lot to mull over at the moment....no point everyone just looking away and ignoring the issues at hand. I don't think that it will effect Mel's decisions either way,I suspect he's got his own mind and views on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: You reckon the fans can't see some of it on the pitch? This is just a poll to gauge what fans are thinking about this situation. I was surprised by the stuff Cocu came out with in his interviews yesterday, I think fans will see what they want to see, particularly if it feeds into their own strongly held views. I doubt very much you needed a poll to gauge what fans were thinking about the situation because its self-evident from the other threads on a similar subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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