Anag Ram Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: United's strength is pace upfront. We play Blackburn on Sunday who will be a lot more direct, so that's the game we'll need Forsyth. Lowe will cope better against their pacey wingers. 6 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: United's strength is pace upfront. We play Blackburn on Sunday who will be a lot more direct, so that's the game we'll need Forsyth. Lowe will cope better against their pacey wingers. ...except Lowe showed against Bristol City that he can’t block crosses. Also, don’t forget that Maguire, Matic and co will be at every set piece. We need height and power back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 They are going to score from 2 set pieces tonight, I tell you now Ighalo will score one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: ...except Lowe showed against Bristol City that he can’t block crosses. Also, don’t forget that Maguire, Matic and co will be at every set piece. We need height and power back there. Did Forsyth stop a single cross against Sheffield Wednesday? 18 crosses came in from Palmer and Murphy, including the one for the goal. Lowe blocks more shots, crosses and passes than Forsyth (2.2 per 90 vs 0.8), and also intercepts 50% more often. even Bogle blocks crosses more regularly. You could possibly argue that Forsyth's positioning is better which usually results in fewer crosses coming in... but that certainly wasn't the case last weekend. Forsyth's main strength is heading those crosses away - Igahlo, Greenwood and Mata have won a combined 5 headers between them all season. Any other forwards than may field against us isn't much better in the air. This is not the game we need Forsyth for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: ...except Lowe showed against Bristol City that he can’t block crosses. Also, don’t forget that Maguire, Matic and co will be at every set piece. We need height and power back there. 100 percent agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Did Forsyth stop a single cross against Sheffield Wednesday? 18 crosses came in from Palmer and Murphy, including the one for the goal. Lowe blocks more shots, crosses and passes than Forsyth (2.2 per 90 vs 0.8), and also intercepts 50% more often. even Bogle blocks crosses more regularly. You could possibly argue that Forsyth's positioning is better which usually results in fewer crosses coming in... but that certainly wasn't the case last weekend. Forsyth's main strength is heading those crosses away - Igahlo, Greenwood and Mata have won a combined 5 headers between them all season. Any other forwards than may field against us isn't much better in the air. This is not the game we need Forsyth for. Why do you think Lowe is so good. He goes into tackles with his wrong foot to block crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 15 hours ago, Woodley Ram said: Just watching Man City at Wednesday, they are crap we were 2-0 up at this stage also their strip is clashing with my Pina Colada anyway my team for tomorrow Hamer Bogle. Wisdom. Clarke. Forsyth Knight Bird Rooney. waghorn. Martin. Lawrence put Martin in because we need to try and hold onto the ball, knight for energy, wisdom because I don’t trust Davies on the ball and Bogle because of his speed in attack and he is an outlet That’s our best 11 at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 hours ago, SaintRam said: @loweman2 Seriously tempted to blow the wedding budget on Rooney’s shirt, tell the missus I was feeling charitable and that we can get married any other time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Curtains said: Why do you think Lowe is so good. He goes into tackles with his wrong foot to block crosses. Yet his 'wrong foot' still blocks more crosses than any other full back we have. In fact, there aren't many fullbacks who blocked more crosses tin the whole league. He's 7th overall, with all but 1 of them playing in more games. He's our best LB for playing out from the back - passing it out, dribbling, playing the ball in to dangerous areas. He's also very good at the defensive side of his game, especially in reading play to either put a tackle in or cutting out a pass. The stats back me up... Compare him with out other LBs (per 90): Most tackles, best tackle success, and by far the most interceptions. 2nd to Buchanan on blocks, and 3rd to Forsyth and Malone on clearances. Most dribbles, 2nd to Malone on dribble success. Most passes, most accurate passer (short and long), most key passes per game. Most crosses, 2nd to Forsyth on cross accuracy. Most headers won, 3rd to Buchanan and Forsyth on headers won %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Curtains said: Why do you think Lowe is so good. He goes into tackles with his wrong foot to block crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, David said: Facts do not belong here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Facts do not belong here I suspect Lowe is close to the top of that list if minutes played are taken into account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I might be completely wrong, but this gives the impression that Ole doesn't really have a detailed knowledge of Rooney's role in our team. He only mentions his passing ability from deep at the end of his time at United, and doesn't make a direct reference to what he does here. He also implies that Rooney will be in and around the box, which he definitely won't be 95% of the time. Has he done all the proper analysis? Are they taking it easy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Carnero said: I suspect Lowe is close to the top of that list if minutes played are taken into account? Matt Grimes averages 3 tackles won per game. Lowe averages almost 4, so I suspect so, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Carnero said: I suspect Lowe is close to the top of that list if minutes played are taken into account? Matt Grimes - 3240 mins Kristian Pedersen - 3240 mins Mahlon Romeo - 3113 mins Matty Cash - 2984 mins Joe Bryan - 2825 mins Lewis Travis - 2797 mins Max Lowe - 2024 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Carnero said: I suspect Lowe is close to the top of that list if minutes played are taken into account? Out of those listed he's streets ahead - 4.09 per 90 vs the next best of 3.03. His success rate of 80% is also the highest (just). In the league overall (and excluding those with just a few minutes here and there) he's 3rd - Stewart (Hull) tackles 4.87 times with a success rate of 70.5% and Sow (Forest) tackles 4.57 times with a 70% success rate. Both paly as DMs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Now that we’ve established Max Lowe can’t tackle and doesn’t know his left from right, how many are we saying Rooney is scoring tonight? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bubbles Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, David said: i’ll be in my living room at 6, nice and early!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Predicted United team: Romero; Williams, Maguire, Bailly, Dalot; McTominay, Pereira; Greenwood, Lingard, Mata; Ighalo. Derby beats that team IMO, especially at Fortress Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Predicted United team: Romero; Williams, Maguire, Bailly, Dalot; McTominay, Pereira; Greenwood, Lingard, Mata; Ighalo. Derby beats that team IMO, especially at Fortress Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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