desirelines Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Fans confusing the transfer price with the Fantasy Football price is the content I came here for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 21 hours ago, The Key Club King said: All this talk of price seems to be underpinned by the assumption that we sell our players off on the cheap. Other than Will Hughes, for whom we don't know the true price, and who is a decent Premier League player and no more as of yet, can anyone tell me anyone else in the past decade we've sold off on the cheap. I'll wait... Not sure these are all last decade and not all prem but I think they set the tone for the feeling Rasiak, Huddlestone, Poom, Hendrick, Stephen Davis, Cyrus Christie, Russell, Shotton, Vydra, Ince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Dethorn said: Not sure these are all last decade and not all prem but I think they set the tone for the feeling Rasiak, Huddlestone, Poom, Hendrick, Stephen Davis, Cyrus Christie, Russell, Shotton, Vydra, Ince We got good prices for Hendrick, Vydra, and Christie at a minimum, and the fee for since was fine. Shotton is one that went cheap in hindsight because a team paid more later but he was universally not rated here, and Russell only had 6 months left I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, nottingram said: We got good prices for Hendrick, Vydra, and Christie at a minimum, and the fee for since was fine. Shotton is one that went cheap in hindsight because a team paid more later but he was universally not rated here, and Russell only had 6 months left I believe. Wow just looked up Hendrick and it was more than double what I remebered so I take that one - I was just trying to suggest deals that may harbour that feeling, Vydra signed for £8M sold for undisclosed... I believed Christie was undosclosed too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I thought these threads were closed down as soon as the sale was confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Dethorn said: Not sure these are all last decade and not all prem but I think they set the tone for the feeling Rasiak, Huddlestone, Poom, Hendrick, Stephen Davis, Cyrus Christie, Russell, Shotton, Vydra, Ince The first three are good but rather old examples and probably where this feeling of flogging off cheap comes from. Davies was about 750k and was about the right value as was Christie at £2.5m. Vydra, Ince and Hendrick were all pretty good deals for Derby. Russell was near the end of his contract and he is in the MLS where he is doing well at a relatively poor league. Paul Coutts went on to do well at Sheff Utd but was poor for us. I think we've done ok with player sales over the past decade. Purchases are a very different story though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, sage said: I thought these threads were closed down as soon as the sale was confirmed. That only applies to white goods and furniture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, sage said: I thought these threads were closed down as soon as the sale was confirmed. That's never been the case - they usually just die on their own after a couple of days of reacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, SaintRam said: That's never been the case - they usually just die on their own after a couple of days of reacting. Oh it's just with you moving the Chris Martin thread into 'ex-Rams' within 1 minute of the transfer being confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, sage said: Oh it's just with you moving the Chris Martin thread into 'ex-Rams' within 1 minute of the transfer being confirmed. ? That was a new thread that got started when he signed for Bristol after he'd already left us. He didn't transfer from us to Bristol. Had no place in the Transfers forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 .......aaaaaand there’s the name drop we’ve all been waiting for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, roboto said: .......aaaaaand there’s the name drop we’ve all been waiting for... thank you fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, SaintRam said: ? @SaintRam Retracted. Unable to delete content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 11 hours ago, cheron85 said: Sometimes things pay off and sometimes they don't - That's life unfortunately The intent, always is to sell players to bring money in and re-invest in improving the squad - The idea is to produce multiple youngsters every year from the academy some of whom will move on and some of whom will stay - We've sold two players who broke through 2 years ago - Last year we had 4 players break into the first team picture - Hopefully this year it will be 3/4 more - If you sell a couple every now and then it's the price of running a successful academy - Yep, sounds great in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 13 hours ago, IlsonDerby said: We’re still paying for that one wild season of spending under Clement. You remove that from the equation and we’re very much on track with the plan. On track. Really ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, SaintRam said: That's never been the case - they usually just die on their own after a couple of days of overreacting. Just thought I'd correct it for you. Clearly just an oversight on your part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 9 hours ago, europia said: On track. Really ??? Bringing through and building a team around our academy products with a manager who has a mid term plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I remember when we sold Malcolm Christie to Boro, Riggott went in the same deal, allegedly allowing the club to shaft Nuneaton over Christie's sell-on fee by putting more money against the Riggott transfer. I've seen some comments that we've done the same again, as there was probably a sell-on fee owed to Swindon for Bogle. If true, the ruthless financial reality of running a football club rears its ugly head. And makes clear to me we should never rely on add-ons ourselves and always try to get as much as we can up front. [Apologies if this is covered earlier in the long thread and I've missed it] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: I remember when we sold Malcolm Christie to Boro, Riggott went in the same deal, allegedly allowing the club to shaft Nuneaton over Christie's sell-on fee by putting more money against the Riggott transfer. I've seen some comments that we've done the same again, as there was probably a sell-on fee owed to Swindon for Bogle. I hope neither of those things are true. And if they are then surely that's the last time we would be able to sign a lower league prospect for anything other than cold hard cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: I remember when we sold Malcolm Christie to Boro, Riggott went in the same deal, allegedly allowing the club to shaft Nuneaton over Christie's sell-on fee by putting more money against the Riggott transfer. I've seen some comments that we've done the same again, as there was probably a sell-on fee owed to Swindon for Bogle. If true, the ruthless financial reality of running a football club rears its ugly head. And makes clear to me we should never rely on add-ons ourselves and always try to get as much as we can up front. [Apologies if this is covered earlier in the long thread and I've missed it] I'm not sure it's something I'd particularly want to do as a buying club with the existence of FFP - I wouldn't want the worse player of a double signing (Lowe) having the majority of the fee across his four year contract because the liklihood of him not developing is higher than with Bogle - I get that they're a PL club and this money was basically peanuts to them but I'd still be hesitant about being reckless with any amount of spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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