Sparkle Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Perhaps we shouldn’t be including players who we don’t own or haven’t loaned in our team selections as it looks very silly at present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, dcfcfan1 said: As in stands our team is not good enough for top 6 But 2/3 loans could change that Rather us start season as outsiders and integrate youth (knight) ect than panic buy a few average players on 5 year contracts Agree to an extent. Get Ampadu or another CB and we're set in defense, easily a top six back 4. I think we're already set in midfield. Bird/Sibley/Knight will step up this year plus we're yet to see Dowell and Holmes in the team. Strikers we're spoilt, Bennett seems to be happy a good pre season too. That just leaves the wingers, one solid addition there and we've got a top six team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: Agree to an extent. Get Ampadu or another CB and we're set in defense, easily a top six back 4. I think we're already set in midfield. Bird/Sibley/Knight will step up this year plus we're yet to see Dowell and Holmes in the team. Strikers we're spoilt, Bennett seems to be happy a good pre season too. That just leaves the wingers, one solid addition there and we've got a top six team. I’m not sure I agree with this. I’m all for optimism but I can’t see Bird, sibley and knight having that big an impact and they’ll surely be back in the 23s come August and one of them maybe be on the bench here and there. I think we need to strengthen in midfield big time given Wilson and mount made such an impact in those attacking midfield positions last year. Would be happy as it is and using the three named above a lot but would suggest we then can’t complain if we finish 15th. in fairness, we may not play 4-1-2-3 which would lessen the need to bring in more attacking midfielders and he has played two up top in pre season but in the past I believe Cocu has liked to play a similar style to lamps with one sitting and two forward thinking midfielders and one up top. the only reason I can’t see youngsters having as much of an impact is that the club retains ambitions of promotion and I think that takes precedence over bringing through youth and, like I said above, we would likely not finish top 10 with three (or even one) 18 year olds playing a significant amount in the midfield (hahaha watch them all bang in ten next season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcfan1 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: Agree to an extent. Get Ampadu or another CB and we're set in defense, easily a top six back 4. I think we're already set in midfield. Bird/Sibley/Knight will step up this year plus we're yet to see Dowell and Holmes in the team. Strikers we're spoilt, Bennett seems to be happy a good pre season too. That just leaves the wingers, one solid addition there and we've got a top six team. Holmes is injury prone, and we lack goals and creativity from CM- our weakest area. Have no faith in Huddlestone or Thorne too, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TibshelfRam Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 21 hours ago, JoeDerby said: NEW KEEPER BOGLE KEOGH DAVIES LOWE AMPADU SHINNIE WAGHORN DOWELL LAWRENCE MARRIOTT THIS TEAM IS SEXY. *That team is spacey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 "Whats your current team?" *Basically every team has "New Player" in it somewhere* ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Really don't think we're that far off from being a great team. We have great forwards just a couple of additions needed in the midfield and defence and we're sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 New Keeper Bogle Keogh Trialist Trialist Trialist New CM Holmes Bennett Marriott Trialist Starting to take shape nicely now I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuskus Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Butterfield Anya Martin Thorne Forsyth and Carson need to be sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Kuskus said: Butterfield Anya Martin Thorne Forsyth and Carson need to be sold Who then needs to be bought, taken on loan or brought in from Academy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Pastinaak said: New Keeper Bogle Keogh Trialist Trialist Trialist New CM Holmes Bennett Marriott Trialist Starting to take shape nicely now I think. What is the difference between Trialist and New ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuskus Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rampage said: Who then needs to be bought, taken on loan or brought in from Academy? We already have two left backs and Forsyth contract is expiring at the end of the season we already have two strikers and Martins contract is expiring at the end of the season Carsons passing isn’t the best and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Butterfield is inconsistent and is most likely going to leave soon for Blackburn and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Thorne isn’t probably going to get back up to his peak after two terrible injuries and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Anya is inconsistent however he could be Derby’s utility man but he is over his 30s and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Replacement for Carson: Buy a New young keeper like Walton Replacement for Butterfield: Could be Knight or Sibley or potentially a new signing on loan or permanent Replacement for Thorne: Could be Bird or Evans who has been average playing in midfield or potentially a new signing on loan or permanent Replacement for Anya: Could be Whittaker or Mitchell Lawson or a new signing on loan or permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Most Fans wishes #nomoreloans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Kuskus said: We already have two left backs and Forsyth contract is expiring at the end of the season we already have two strikers and Martins contract is expiring at the end of the season Carsons passing isn’t the best and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Butterfield is inconsistent and is most likely going to leave soon for Blackburn and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Thorne isn’t probably going to get back up to his peak after two terrible injuries and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Anya is inconsistent however he could be Derby’s utility man but he is over his 30s and his contract is expiring at the end of the season Replacement for Carson: Buy a New young keeper like Walton Replacement for Butterfield: Could be Knight or Sibley or potentially a new signing on loan or permanent Replacement for Thorne: Could be Bird or Evans who has been average playing in midfield or potentially a new signing on loan or permanent Replacement for Anya: Could be Whittaker or Mitchell Lawson or a new signing on loan or permanent Best reply that I have ever received, Kuskus. What a Van Der guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rampage said: Best reply that I have ever received, Kuskus. What a Van Der guy. You didn't ask him who he was selling them all to! Blackburn? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: What is the difference between Trialist and New ? Maybe we need a New Trialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: You didn't ask him who he was selling them all to! Blackburn? ? Rams turning into feeder club for Rovers. If it suits us and them it is fine by me. I suspect that Brad will be a top player at Rovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Rampage said: Rams turning into feeder club for Rovers. If it suits us and them it is fine by me. I suspect that Brad will be a top player at Rovers. I think its just Lancashire clubs in general. We have been Burnleys feeder club for a while now, so I'm guessing Blackburn just took a look at their neighbours and thought they would do the same. Unfortunately Burnley already took all our best players, so Blackburn don't have much too choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCTom84 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Feels quite difficult to pick what a starting 11 might look like, might know more after Burton as we might see more of what PC wants tactically (though I'd still assume we'll see a mix of players getting 45mins each so might not give much away as to how he is leaning towards who starts). Think the main difficulties is what the midfield looks like and then the fact that some decent attacking players are going to have to miss out as we can't use them all. As a variation of the 433 I wouldn't mind seeing: Carson/Roos (Guessing Roos is ahead from what we've seen but for me Carson still better) Bogle Keogh Davies Malone Huddz (Thorne as he once was would be a shoe in but doesn't seem likely and Shinnie I just don't know what he is yet) Holmes Dowell (Shinnie could play here too but see above) Waghorn Marriott Martin Lot of responsibility on the full backs to provide width but get balls in to Martin's feet and you'd like to think he could bring in Waghorn and Marriott if they're playing close to him and running beyond him. Would make them both difficult to pick up as opposition centre halves would either have to be tight to Martin allowing Marriott and Waghorn to run past them onto through balls from midfield (Martin as a distraction) or balls into Martin where he is the pivot to bring them in with flicks round the corner/little lay offs etc. Or if opposition centre halves drop off Martin it would give time and space for either him to turn and threaten the goal or forces a midfielder to close him down and creates space for Holmes/Dowell. An added advantage would be forcing opposition full backs to tuck in tighter to help 2 centre halves (most teams still favour a back 4) creating space outwide for our fullbacks but unlike previous seasons having 3 guys who are a treat from crosses all in the box. Obvious disadvantages are vulnerability when full backs committed forward and therefore needing the midfield 3 to have a lot of energy to get back when the ball is lost. This is obviously a weakness of Huddz so might be where someone like Shinnie is better and I don't know whether it is a strength of Dowell, Holmes is very quick and seems willing to get stuck in but is clearly not a physical presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuskus Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 We need a GK CB CM RW Get rid of Carson Forsyth Butterfield Anya Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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