Boycie Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I can still remember the feeling of going 3 goals up against Leeds at Elland Rd. I didn’t feel the same at full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Frank should give Nigel a call and ask for advice- we always seemed to win against Leeds...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, HantsRam said: Frank should give Nigel a call and ask for advice- we always seemed to win against Leeds...... They were crap then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Remy the hare said: Hull in the 15/16 2nd leg semi playoffs in a prime example. I remember Johnny, Martin and Bryson going very close at 2-0. I remember Bryson miskicking at a cross and that was it as far as opportunities at 2-0 down. Can you show me a clip of 'very close' please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurich Ram Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Wolfie20 said: Maybe waiting to see the outcome of the first leg Maybe just tight-fisted Yorkshiremen...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I have a theory about this seasons " very good " Leeds team. They started off at a real high tempo pace. Bielsa football if you like. That first game v Derby they looked like another Wolves in the making. However, to keep this tempo up and high ( Man City type) tempo all season you needs players who can sustain it. There is a marked difference between Citeh players and Leeds. They have run out of gas basically and some players ( cooper, Jansson, Ayling, Phillips, Roofe, Klitch) just not good enough to keep it up. Bielsas biggest job this week is convincing them to be the same team that beat Derby early doors. Not be the team losing to Ipswich. Thats going to be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Elwood P Dowd said: I don’t think comments like this inspire confidence Bielsa said: “What I can tell you is I lost all the finals – apart from the final of the Olympics.” If Frank had made similar comments, the usual suspects would be on here wanting him sacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, StockholmRam said: Bielsas biggest job this week is convincing them to be the same team that beat Derby early doors. Not be the team losing to Ipswich. Thats going to be tough. It’s going to be tough when he’s recently said this: ”Remember what I am going to say right now because you will be able to verify it: you won't have one single player of our team who would re-produce the same performance, being that constant, in another season because we have been very demanding with them and they gave everything” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6964765/Marcelo-Bielsa-warns-never-Leeds-Premier-League-dream.html Maybe it’s a little bit of reverse psychology, hoping the players go out and prove him wrong, don’t know. All this and the I’ve lost all but one finals is a strange way to talk before the play offs. Think he’ll walk if they don’t go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: I have a theory about this seasons " very good " Leeds team. They started off at a real high tempo pace. Bielsa football if you like. That first game v Derby they looked like another Wolves in the making. However, to keep this tempo up and high ( Man City type) tempo all season you needs players who can sustain it. There is a marked difference between Citeh players and Leeds. They have run out of gas basically and some players ( cooper, Jansson, Ayling, Phillips, Roofe, Klitch) just not good enough to keep it up. Bielsas biggest job this week is convincing them to be the same team that beat Derby early doors. Not be the team losing to Ipswich. Thats going to be tough. From listening to different Leeds opionins/ex Bielsa players etc, the mental fatigue seems to be a bigger problem than the physical. Such massive intensity all the time can be difficult to take. Bielsa himself has already said some of the players won't be able to cope next season regardless of promotion or not. There must be a reason why everyone raves about Bielsa but he rarely wins anything. I would imagine Frank would give the lads a few days off if we beat Leeds. If they get thru, they'll probably be training all day Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, TobyWanKenobi said: If Frank had made similar comments, the usual suspects would be on here wanting him sacked! You mean those suspects who have gone to ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, David said: It’s going to be tough when he’s recently said this: ”Remember what I am going to say right now because you will be able to verify it: you won't have one single player of our team who would re-produce the same performance, being that constant, in another season because we have been very demanding with them and they gave everything” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6964765/Marcelo-Bielsa-warns-never-Leeds-Premier-League-dream.html Maybe it’s a little bit of reverse psychology, hoping the players go out and prove him wrong, don’t know. All this and the I’ve lost all but one finals is a strange way to talk before the play offs. Think he’ll walk if they don’t go up. I just think you need much better players, physically, ability and mentally than Leeds current crop. You can tell an average nag at the start of the grand national " you are Red Rum..off you go out of the traps"... and of course the horse goes like the clappers as its told for half the race then just fades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: I just think you need much better players, physically, ability and mentally than Leeds current crop. You can tell an average nag at the start of the grand national " you are Red Rum..off you go out of the traps"... and of course the horse goes like the clappers as its told for half the race then just fades. Or when your missus says you WILL last more than a minute this time darling, and 30 seconds in your lighting a cigarette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Boycie said: I can still remember the feeling of going 3 goals up against Leeds at Elland Rd. I didn’t feel the same at full time. My first away game ever that... should have known from them what being a Ram would be like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: From listening to different Leeds opionins/ex Bielsa players etc, the mental fatigue seems to be a bigger problem than the physical. Such massive intensity all the time can be difficult to take. Bielsa himself has already said some of the players won't be able to cope next season regardless of promotion or not. There must be a reason why everyone raves about Bielsa but he rarely wins anything. I would imagine Frank would give the lads a few days off if we beat Leeds. If they get thru, they'll probably be training all day Thursday. Cloughie would jet them off to Majorca! A few days on the beach does ‘em the world of good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just for my own interest, I had a look at the lineups for the two games where they beat us comfortably The spine of their team was the same both times Peacock-Farrell Ayling Cooper Alioski Hernández Klich Roofe Since then the only big change to that team base is that the youngster Peacock-Farrell has been replaced in goal by 32 year old Casilla from Spain (who signed on a 4.5 year deal!??!) - their results seem to have dipped since he started playing. Could be coincidence As for our line up in those two games - weirdly both games had Wisdom/Lowe at full back. Bryson also played both games in midfield, and Carson in goal obviously. So compared to the "best XI" that finished the season so strongly there will be quite a few changes for us. I don't think a Leeds victory is the foregone conclusion I thought it was... COYR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 If I was a Leeds fan I'd be licking my lips at the thought of playing a side they've comfortably dispatched twice already with the minimum of fuss. Frankly if they don't turn us over these next 2, they're the biggest bottlers this league has ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty389 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, reveldevil said: If I was a Leeds fan I'd be licking my lips at the thought of playing a side they've comfortably dispatched twice already with the minimum of fuss. Frankly if they don't turn us over these next 2, they're the biggest bottlers this league has ever seen. True.... but they clearly dont feel the same....? Plus they did that after spying on us, and it was still at a time when FL was changing the starting XI quite alot so there was no real "team".... whereas now we are starting the same XI with fewer changes and have been playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shorty389 said: True.... but they clearly dont feel the same....? Plus they did that after spying on us, and it was still at a time when FL was changing the starting XI quite alot so there was no real "team".... whereas now we are starting the same XI with fewer changes and have been playing well. I'm not convinced the spying helped them that much, we've attempted to play the same way pretty much regardless of who's in or out the team, it's just the effectiveness that's changed. I'm not saying I'm expecting the games to pan out the same way, but there seems to be a narrative that somehow Leeds go into the matches as slight underdogs, but the evidence of my own eyes suggest they should be heavy favourites to progress. Even in the controversial match Vs Villa, they gave them a far harder game than we've managed to do this season. If we were playing WBA, I'd have booked train tickets to Wembley by now, using the same measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I’m convinced it gave them an advantage, otherwise Bielsa wouldn’t have done it prior to each game they played. I don’t buy this I’m just obsessed, look at my analysis, didn’t even need it not having it at all, that little stunt was for the EFL to go easy on them, which you can argue they did. They won’t though as they cry conspiracy. The question will always be, how many points did that advantage translate into? It’s really difficult to answer that question. Despite playing some of the best football the Championship has seen this season, if they go up it would be a travesty given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 In the match at **** *** Road it did give them an advantage. An advantage we totally gifted them, by letting it get to Frank, the players and the fans. That's what irritated me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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