Eddie Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: And some of those old farts that voted leave in 2016 will have kicked the bucket by now. I'm not so sure that matters. People, as they get older, tend to hold more right wing attitudes. Perhaps this is a 'rose-tinted spectacles' tendency to look at the past and a belief that 'things were better back then'. It's quite possible that over the last few years some waverers have evolved into hard-nosed brexiteers, and some remainers have become waverers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Montgolfier said: I'm not so sure that matters. People, as they get older, tend to hold more right wing attitudes. Perhaps this is a 'rose-tinted spectacles' tendency to look at the past and a belief that 'things were better back then'. It's quite possible that over the last few years some waverers have evolved into hard-nosed brexiteers, and some remainers have become waverers. This was my mother's basis for voting leave. When pressed for examples, she was short of specifics. Trade with india, apparently. By which I assume she meant calico in one direction IPA in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just laughed at an interview outside Westminster with Brexiteer MP Nigel Evans where he goes on about how it's important that politicians listen to what the people want. Then a protester with a placard appears behind him and says "Stop Brexit!" He turns round and tells him to shut up and go away ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Just laughed at an interview outside Westminster with Brexiteer MP Nigel Evans where he goes on about how it's important that politicians listen to what the people want. Then a protester with a placard appears behind him and says "Stop Brexit!" He turns round and tells him to shut up and go away ? No, not those people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WharfedaleRam Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: And some of those old farts that voted leave in 2016 will have kicked the bucket by now. No, we’re still hanging on sonny!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 hours ago, SchtivePesley said: Marmite mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 A week is a long time in politics - and in opinion polls. I would think that you would be hard-pressed to find one today showing Johnson approval figures in double figures - and certainly not in his own household. Whether Corbyn could reach the dizzy heights of 25% is another matter, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Montgolfier said: A week is a long time in politics - and in opinion polls. I would think that you would be hard-pressed to find one today showing Johnson approval figures in double figures - and certainly not in his own household. Whether Corbyn could reach the dizzy heights of 25% is another matter, though. Johnson is Marmite. Corbyn isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I'm just bored of Brexit now. I think we should move on to our next incredible scheme - putting the UK on wheels so we can travel round the world trading with whoever we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Johnson is Marmite. Corbyn isn't. Johnson is just toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Johnson is Marmite. Corbyn isn't. Probably 313,209 Labour members who would disagree, but whatever you want to tell yourself is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, PodgeyRam said: I'm just bored of Brexit now. I think we should move on to our next incredible scheme - putting the UK on wheels so we can travel round the world trading with whoever we want. Unfortunately people seem to be of the same opinion, and are in favour of a hard brexit to get it over with. No thought or rationalisation required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Probably 313,209 Labour members who would disagree, but whatever you want to tell yourself is fine Corbyn isn’t Marmite because some people actually like Marmite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Van Gritters said: Corbyn isn’t Marmite because some people actually like Marmite. Probably 313,209 Labour members who would disagree, but whatever you want to tell yourself is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 18 hours ago, maxjam said: What a surprise from the Torygraph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Probably 313,209 Labour members who would disagree, but whatever you want to tell yourself is fine Honestly ??? 313,209 people don't win an election. Almost 17 million more people voted to leave the EU than that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Montgolfier said: Johnson is just toast. Remainer MP's are. The landscape of politics is changing. Remainers will be purged from the Conservatives just as Leavers will be purged from Labour. In that outcome, Labour takes the biggest hit. Farage must be loving this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Remainer MP's are. The landscape of politics is changing. Remainers will be purged from the Conservatives just as Leavers will be purged from Labour. In that outcome, Labour takes the biggest hit. Farage must be loving this. With the greatest of respect, I think that is too simplistic a view of things. A polarisation of Brexit/Remain across party lines is just never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Montgolfier said: With the greatest of respect, I think that is too simplistic a view of things. A polarisation of Brexit/Remain across party lines is just never going to happen. It's been happening for the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Probably 313,209 Labour members who would disagree, but whatever you want to tell yourself is fine Do you seriously think all Labours members support him? I know quite a few Labour members including shop stewards who can't stand him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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