Mucker1884 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Anon said: Having watched the Leeds Villa footage again, as much as I've enjoyed laughing at Leeds, I have to say that Leeds were right to play on. If I was Villa's manager I'd be furious that half of my players switched off and just assumed that Leeds would put the ball out of play. If they had played on in the fullest and firmest way, then yes, I'd agree... otherwise I'd be a complete hypocrite when taking joy (still, to this day!) from Jamie Wards goal* when we only had 10 men! Let's first remember, the injury in both cases were not the fault of foul play, or even an accidental fault of the opposition. The Villa defender got injured due to his own clumsy/less than perfect challenge, and... as it didn't appear to be a head injury or "serious"... from that point on, my opinion is that Le*ds had every right to continue... BUT... The lad who receives the ball by the halfway line/nearside touchline all but comes to a halt, whilst appearing to signal he's about to make the sporting gesture of kicking the ball out... At which time, the Villa players switch off, in readiness to thank him!... then he promptly splays it down the line for their winger to do the rest! The actions of those last two Le*ds players (to touch the ball) are what I would call "unsporting". Not the fact they played on, but the manner in which it was done. My opinion is, in this day and age of cheating/simulation/players who cannot be trusted, we should forget all this gentlemanly bollux about kicking the ball out for the opposition. If the ref deems fit, he can blow, and subsequently re-start with ye olde proper drop ball, where two guys actually try to win possession! There is too much at stake these days for one individual to make this decision on behalf of the rest of his club... yes, the whole club! Team mates, coaching staff, the guy who has pumped in millions of his own cash in the desperate attempt to achieve something, the fans, the staff, and the local suppliers. Each and every one of them are affected by the decision of one person seemingly "doing the right and honourable thing"! Let's think on... should the ball get kicked out of touch each and every time a player goes down injured? If the answer is no, then it shouldn't happen at all. Let the match officials do their job, assess the situation, and act accordingly. I believe that, in both of the incidents I refer to, the ref clearly and officially "Waves play on"! Yes, Of course Bielsa did the right thing by allowing/ordering Villa to equalise... how could he not, when he knew Le*ds would otherwise have been labelled world wide, as the dirtiest, scummiest, cheatiest, diseased-riddenest sporting club since erm... Oh! *Re our 10 men goal... There was a full 23 seconds from their guy going down (no foul, remember!) to Ward receiving the ball, and a further 8 seconds before he made a fool out of Campy! At no stage did any Rams player (and certainly not our manager!) hint at kicking the ball out. At no time did Fo*est players stop, although a few arms were flailed in a girly manner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 20 hours ago, coneheadjohn said: He has been accused of that! Erm... not sure I'm understanding that comment, but if it is referring to what I now think it is referring to, then I would like to go on record to say that I had absolutely no idea, and that any reference (on my part) to female attire, male rectal regions, solitary ablution facilities, and effeminate décor are purely and 100% coincidental, and that my comments therein publicly published should in no way be considered as a deliberate act of any "ism", in any way, shape or form! Or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: The lad who receives the ball by the halfway line/nearside touchline all but comes to a halt, whilst appearing to signal he's about to make the sporting gesture of kicking the ball out... At which time, the Villa players switch off, in readiness to thank him!... then he promptly splays it down the line for their winger to do the rest! The actions of those last two Le*ds players (to touch the ball) are what I would call "unsporting". Not the fact they played on, but the manner in which it was done. This is the only bit I disagree with. I've watched the footage time and time again and for the life of me I can't see what Tyler Roberts does that makes people think he's about to put the ball out of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Erm... not sure I'm understanding that comment, but if it is referring to what I now think it is referring to, then I would like to go on record to say that I had absolutely no idea, and that any reference (on my part) to female attire, male rectal regions, solitary ablution facilities, and effeminate décor are purely and 100% coincidental, and that my comments therein publicly published should in no way be considered as a deliberate act of any "ism", in any way, shape or form! Or... It’s funny because when I replied I had to think what was acceptable for me to write. I think I might just leave it . I was not implying anyone at all that anyone likes to wear a dress and it would be their business if they did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, coneheadjohn said: It’s funny because when I replied I had to think what was acceptable for me to write. I think I might just leave it . I was not implying anyone at all that anyone likes to wear a dress and it would be their business if they did? Oh... so not what I thought you meant then! Wished I'd have just left it, now! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, Anon said: This is the only bit I disagree with. I've watched the footage time and time again and for the life of me I can't see what Tyler Roberts does that makes people think he's about to put the ball out of play. Of course, it's all open to interpretation, but I'm convinced that, rightly or wrongly, I got the same impression as the majority of the Villa players. ... Still no excuse though... play to the whistle, an' all that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 The biggest villain in the piece was the scumbag Bamford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, eddie said: The biggest villain in the piece was the scumbag Bamford. It was so pointless as well. It was effectively a dead rubber game, Leeds gained nothing substantial from Villa having 10 men and they would still be in the playoffs regardless of how the game finished. Now El Ghazi will likely have the card rescinded before this weekend while Bamford will probably end up missing at least one leg of the playoff semi-finals for deception of a match official, and all of this for no real gain in a match with no real effect on the table. For a lad that was supposed to be bright enough to get into Harvard, he's made himself look a right dimwit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys' Handbag Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 After ordering the equalising goal, is true that Bielsa got everyone together after the game and told them, "Chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest ducking dustbin you can find. Because you’ve never won any of them fairly. You’ve done it all by cheating"? Of course it may have lost something in the translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, StivePesley said: Best video? That's only because nobody videoed me ordering a bottle of Aecht Schlenkerla Rauchbier and a bottle of Weihenstaphaner Hefe Weissbier earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 18 hours ago, bigbadbob said: 19 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: My brother in law and some of his mates did this to Billy Connolly in Sydney a few years ago when they spotted him outside a café . He wasn't amused. My brother did it to Bradley walsh. Bradley called him a ******.(someone who tosses) One of my old work mates ( A Leeds fan) did it to Roy Keane of the ferry to Ireland once. He wasn't very happy, but Chris lived to tell the tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said: One of my old work mates ( A Leeds fan) did it to Roy Keane of the ferry to Ireland once. He wasn't very happy, but Chris lived to tell the tale. Don't believe you. Roy Keane could never work out how to operate a camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I literally have no recollection of Freeman playing for Derby, was it during bad times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Not ‘Arf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, philmycock said: I literally have no recollection of Freeman playing for Derby, was it during bad times? Nigel Clough signed him I think from Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Curtains said: Nigel Clough signed him I think from Forest Saw him play for us at Brighton in the 2012-2013 season. We lost 2-1. Was ok, nothing special. Bit steadier than Gareth Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Came from Forest didn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Seemed ok but nothing special at Derby. Done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Always seems to play well against us. Must hurt him that most fans seem to have no recollection of him at Derby! Wilder is THE expert at fitting average players into a system and getting the best out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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