Remy the hare Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 8 hours ago, SilentRam said: He was good until January. The whole issue with signing a new contract while on loan changed everything. I live near to Craven Cottage. His game time decreased and he was often booed by some parts of the Fulham fans. To be honest, call it bad luck or karma but he has not been the same since signing a contract extension while away on a season long loan. And the irony is that it is that same very contract that makes teams dipping in to the loan market go for other strikers whose last good form was a couple of seasons ago. His goals had dried up for us from around November 2015 onwards, however all strikers they go through lean spells. The above though is about right in my opinion. Events of Mac2 trying to get him back while on loan, Fulham digging their heels, CM going on strike, new lucrative contact (while on loan) signed, then to cap it off Mac gets the sack and Rowett didn’t want him. Sadly one of the most envied championship strikers from the previous 2/3 seasons ruined at 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. But to base your argument around the 'he's not played them or put them on the bench' line, when they've been injured is just plain nonsense. Never said that. Regardless whether Martin is currently fit or not buying 2 other strikers states the strikers FL has at his disposal are not good enough to play his style of football. It might also be the case that had Martin been fit and not injured he might well have gone in the summer transfer window again i am basing this on Waghorn and Marriot arriving this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 If I was frank I use him maybe against hull in the cup it showed against chelsea under 23 he still knows were the net is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 hours ago, toddy said: Never said that. Regardless whether Martin is currently fit or not buying 2 other strikers states the strikers FL has at his disposal are not good enough to play his style of football. It might also be the case that had Martin been fit and not injured he might well have gone in the summer transfer window again i am basing this on Waghorn and Marriot arriving this summer. We just don't know do we. I suspect the truth is closer to your interpretation than the allowing him to regain proper fitness line, we'll find out in time. In Frank we must trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 hours ago, toddy said: Never said that. Regardless whether Martin is currently fit or not buying 2 other strikers states the strikers FL has at his disposal are not good enough to play his style of football. It might also be the case that had Martin been fit and not injured he might well have gone in the summer transfer window again i am basing this on Waghorn and Marriot arriving this summer. Yet the 2 you mention are not starting games. Therefore the strikers he had at his disposal may have been good enough. Frank just didn’t realise that b4 we spunked 8 million on 2 subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t'oldu Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Nugent can't maintain this pace for ever...……………..although he did play the whole game yesterday. I think he is expecting to lose a couple of strikers this week...……….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raminphilippines Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Only just found time to watch the under 23s v Chelsea. Martin made scoring look easy and it made me think when was the last time I saw a Derby player make scoring look that easy? I can't remember anyone making scoring look that easy for a long time. Not only did he make scoring look easy, but the whole move was started by him and every touch he had in the build up to the goal he made it look easy. When his knockers have a go calling him lazy I suspect they do not take his footballing brain in to consideration, he does not need to run about like a headless chicken, when he scored it showed that he used his brain and rather than just running forward as fast as he could and ending up offside as many would, he thought about it and just trotted in to the perfect position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Chris Martin. The physical embodiment of 'work smarter, not harder'. It's a lot easier to be a headless chicken, than an intelligent mover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 27/08/2018 at 07:27, Raminphilippines said: Only just found time to watch the under 23s v Chelsea. Martin made scoring look easy and it made me think when was the last time I saw a Derby player make scoring look that easy? I can't remember anyone making scoring look that easy for a long time. Not only did he make scoring look easy, but the whole move was started by him and every touch he had in the build up to the goal he made it look easy. When his knockers have a go calling him lazy I suspect they do not take his footballing brain in to consideration, he does not need to run about like a headless chicken, when he scored it showed that he used his brain and rather than just running forward as fast as he could and ending up offside as many would, he thought about it and just trotted in to the perfect position. You have to remember under 23 games are just like pre season friendlies....meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROSSWORD Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Not if your an old hand showing the manager you can still perform with the young lads and want a spot in the first team. I think he did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 48 minutes ago, toddy said: You have to remember under 23 games are just like pre season friendlies....meaningless. Yep,so let's get him playing in the first team to show how he performs there...it's the only true measure and at last Martin (and Thorne) would be back in a system they thrive in. Could be an eye opener for lampard. Good suggestion toddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Come back Chrissy Martin... Score some goals for Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy the hare Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If he doesn’t make the bench tonight, this thread might as well be closed. Com’on Frank start him, give him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Yep,so let's get him playing in the first team to show how he performs there...it's the only true measure and at last Martin (and Thorne) would be back in a system they thrive in. Could be an eye opener for lampard. Good suggestion toddy. U23 games and pre season friends are for individual fitness only. In Martins case he is playing or he is out on loan. If he is not playing tonight there is a very good chance he is already out of the door.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, toddy said: U23 games and pre season friends are for individual fitness only. In Martins case he is playing or he is out on loan. If he is not playing tonight there is a very good chance he is already out of the door.... Nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t'oldu Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 He might get released before the deadline ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, t'oldu said: He might get released before the deadline ?? If he did he would not be able to sign for anyone until Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, t'oldu said: He might get released before the deadline ?? He might not??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I will be genuinely sad if he isn't in the squad tonight and ecstatic if he is. That said, I think it's very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy the hare Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Black armband on tomorrow then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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