Millenniumram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If this is true (given its the mail hopefully not) then I will start to devolp serious doubts over the direction we’re going in, especially with Thorne all but out the door as well. In the system we’re playing, it’s abosolutely vital we have a proper defensive mid who can dictate the play. It’s exactly what we’ve been missing so far this season, and it’s giving me slight doubts over Lampard that he seems to neglect the importance of the role. Thus far ive given it the benefit of the doubt because neither Thorne or Huddlestone have been properly fit and Evans hasn’t been here long, but one of those three needs to be playing in every game. If Huddlestone has doubts over his appearances then we’ve got a problem imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: If this is true (given its the mail hopefully not) then I will start to devolp serious doubts over the direction we’re going in, especially with Thorne all but out the door as well. In the system we’re playing, it’s abosolutely vital we have a proper defensive mid who can dictate the play. It’s exactly what we’ve been missing so far this season, and it’s giving me slight doubts over Lampard that he seems to neglect the importance of the role. Thus far ive given it the benefit of the doubt because neither Thorne or Huddlestone have been properly fit and Evans hasn’t been here long, but one of those three needs to be playing in every game. If Huddlestone has doubts over his appearances then we’ve got a problem imo. But #lampsin, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, cosmic said: But #lampsin, yeah? Yeah because, like I said, at the moment I’ve got nothing other than a daily mail article to indicate lampards lack of CDM use so far is anything other than because they’ve not been available. If it’s proven otherwise then I’ll have some doubts, but it’s far too early to judge yet regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripperg-ram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: If this is true (given its the mail hopefully not) then I will start to devolp serious doubts over the direction we’re going in, especially with Thorne all but out the door as well. In the system we’re playing, it’s abosolutely vital we have a proper defensive mid who can dictate the play. It’s exactly what we’ve been missing so far this season, and it’s giving me slight doubts over Lampard that he seems to neglect the importance of the role. Thus far ive given it the benefit of the doubt because neither Thorne or Huddlestone have been properly fit and Evans hasn’t been here long, but one of those three needs to be playing in every game. If Huddlestone has doubts over his appearances then we’ve got a problem imo. How do you know Thorne’s on his way? Have I missed Frank saying so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: If this is true (given its the mail hopefully not) then I will start to devolp serious doubts over the direction we’re going in, especially with Thorne all but out the door as well. In the system we’re playing, it’s abosolutely vital we have a proper defensive mid who can dictate the play. It’s exactly what we’ve been missing so far this season, and it’s giving me slight doubts over Lampard that he seems to neglect the importance of the role. Thus far ive given it the benefit of the doubt because neither Thorne or Huddlestone have been properly fit and Evans hasn’t been here long, but one of those three needs to be playing in every game. If Huddlestone has doubts over his appearances then we’ve got a problem imo. Really? By getting rid of someone who is the wrong side of 30 that would make you have serious doubts over the direction we're going in which is pretty clear - young, fast paced + high intensity, none of which suit Huddlestone. I really rate Huddlestone and was happy when he was back but for me there's only space for either him and Ledley and the latter is more mobile so suits Lampard's style more. I personally think Evans will cement himself in the side soon enough anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nuwtfly Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, DcFc Dyycheee said: The Daily Mail have been pretty awful this summer when it's come to breaking Derby news. I'm not giving this one another glance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Lampard also described his fitness as “not far away” in his presser today. That directly contradicts the article’s claim that he was fully fit and available on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Stripperg-ram said: How do you know Thorne’s on his way? Have I missed Frank saying so? Quite a few people saying wassall seem to indicate as much at the recent fans forum. Wasn’t there so can’t say how close it sounded but it does seem that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Really? By getting rid of someone who is the wrong side of 30 that would make you have serious doubts over the direction we're going in which is pretty clear - young, fast paced + high intensity, none of which suit Huddlestone. I really rate Huddlestone and was happy when he was back but for me there's only space for either him and Ledley and the latter is more mobile so suits Lampard's style more. I personally think Evans will cement himself in the side soon enough anyway. But not everyone in the team can be that way, otherwise we’ll just come unstuck time and time again like we have in the previous two league games. We need someone with a bit of experience and guile in there to provide the foundations and control to allow the youth in the team to thrive going forward. I don’t think ledley adds that sort of control myself, haven’t seen enough of Evans to say one way or another. Either way up, what Lampard has said in the media indicates the opposite to what the mail claims, and I think he does value Huddlestone so hopefully that’s just balls and he comes out and saves us tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Really? By getting rid of someone who is the wrong side of 30 that would make you have serious doubts over the direction we're going in which is pretty clear - young, fast paced + high intensity, none of which suit Huddlestone. I really rate Huddlestone and was happy when he was back but for me there's only space for either him and Ledley and the latter is more mobile so suits Lampard's style more. I personally think Evans will cement himself in the side soon enough anyway. Ledley was awful against Leeds and if frank hasnt learnt anything after Leeds and Millwall time to be concerned we need experience in that slot to tighten things up for the next few games and stop teams playing through us. Letting Huddlestone go is not the way to do it. Young fast paced and high intensity as you put it will not work without a solid base and at the moment we haven't got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Huddlestone with Mount and Bryson would be my first choice pairing at the moment. If Stoke chucked money at it then we should look at it due to the circumstances of the squad, not like we don’t have options, but he’s definitely the best choice at the moment. Anything over £4m and it needs to be looked at though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Really? By getting rid of someone who is the wrong side of 30 that would make you have serious doubts over the direction we're going in which is pretty clear - young, fast paced + high intensity, none of which suit Huddlestone. I really rate Huddlestone and was happy when he was back but for me there's only space for either him and Ledley and the latter is more mobile so suits Lampard's style more. I personally think Evans will cement himself in the side soon enough anyway. Was with you all the way until I read that bit! Ledley has no pace and no place,hopefully, in our future.He was a panic signing by Rowett and his race is run.Can’t wait until he’s gone and the his wages are spent on someone who can actually move around quickly instead of being totally bypassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Would only get 2 mill for him but as things stand we need him to sure up the middle of the park..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 In every single game so far we have missed that calming influence. Someone who can put their foot on the ball. Hit balls into the channels for our wingers to run on to. We miss that killer pass from deep. The past 3 games. We've not had this. The midfield is non existent. Huddlestone is our best holding midfielder at the minute (Saw Evans at Oldham and he looks good, but too early for a proper judgement) Thorne and Evans after that you'd have to say. Ledley isn't really the answer and Johnson won't be a defensive midfielder as long as he as a hole in his arse. Letting Huddlestone go on loan would literally make no sense whatsoever. Also interesting that Lampard has said that Martin and Anya will be in the U23s team tonight. No mention of Thorne at all. If Thorne doesn't play for the U23s tonight, wouldn't be surprised to see him in the squad tomorrow at all. Im still clinging to the very small hope that we can get Thorne of when we first signed him. Because what a player we would have. I'd get rid of Johnson and Ledley before Thorne. If he can get some games and prove his fitness before Jan. Id be tempted to offer him a new deal on reduced terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 "Bradley Johnson to have anus surgery in effort to further career" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I highly doubt he would be leaving, it's just lazy journalism at this point with Rowett bringing him back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If we get a fee then take it. Move Jerome out to Leeds or wherever and get Ryan Woods in. midfield sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: If we get a fee then take it. Move Jerome out to Leeds or wherever and get Ryan Woods in. midfield sorted. Likelihood of Brentford letting us take Woods on loan? Zero I would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy the hare Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: If we get a fee then take it. Move Jerome out to Leeds or wherever and get Ryan Woods in. midfield sorted. How do we bring Woods in? on loan? I expect Brentford might say “no thanks” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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