Phoenix Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 1 hour ago, coneheadjohn said: At what though? Head shaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: Do think a reason why clubs such as Southampton ended up with lots of academy players breaking through was their fall into League One. When you're permanently competing at the very top of the Championship with the prospect of 100s of millions of pounds just around the corner, you're unlikely to blood as many youngsters. We might have taken a punt on young Offrande if lower down, say where the gumps live. But instead we've had to bring seasoned professionals in. Given he didn't get to play for Stanley last year, because their manager believes it's an 11-a-side game and not 14-a-side, I am a little surprised he's gone back. But a League One team on the rise is a pretty good move. Look forward to following his progress. We've just signed a forward who's 23 and barely played at this level - I don't think it's now a case of not blooding youngsters My thought is that the Southampton academy has been in progress for a lot longer than ours - I think you'd expect a decade to go by before you start seeing the rewards of a top academy - Turning promising 7 years olds into promising 17 year olds to try and make the first team? Think Zanzala is one of the interim generation we have at the moment who have been attracted in by the burgeoning reputation of the academy but is still going to be hit/miss because not fully developed by us... Just a thought anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: Do think a reason why clubs such as Southampton ended up with lots of academy players breaking through was their fall into League One. When you're permanently competing at the very top of the Championship with the prospect of 100s of millions of pounds just around the corner, you're unlikely to blood as many youngsters. We might have taken a punt on young Offrande if lower down, say where the gumps live. But instead we've had to bring seasoned professionals in. Given he didn't get to play for Stanley last year, because their manager believes it's an 11-a-side game and not 14-a-side, I am a little surprised he's gone back. But a League One team on the rise is a pretty good move. Look forward to following his progress. Southampton also don’t have to compete with anywhere near as many clubs for local talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, cheron85 said: We've just signed a forward who's 23 and barely played at this level - I don't think it's now a case of not blooding youngsters My thought is that the Southampton academy has been in progress for a lot longer than ours - I think you'd expect a decade to go by before you start seeing the rewards of a top academy - Turning promising 7 years olds into promising 17 year olds to try and make the first team? Think Zanzala is one of the interim generation we have at the moment who have been attracted in by the burgeoning reputation of the academy but is still going to be hit/miss because not fully developed by us... Just a thought anyway He's been with us 9 years, nearly 10, how much more development could we have given him? I hope we've got a chunky sell on fee or a buy back clause, with a fair crack he could be next season's Marriott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Sad to see him go but glad for him that it's to a club he enjoys playing for. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Thoughts are with Ninos at this sad time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: He did ? Well no one has come in for Martin..so maybe he's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Disappointed with this, thought he had potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think lad wants first team football you can not deny him this so for I wish the lad good luck I hope all goes well for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteroseram Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 21 hours ago, PistoldPete2 said: One of these days our academy will produce a decent player for us. Have you heard of Will Hughes or Jeff Hendrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 21 hours ago, PistoldPete2 said: Blimey like Vernam I thought he was a decent prospect but injuries haven’t helped his progress . One of these days our academy will produce a decent player for us. Max Lowe starting tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, maxjam said: Max Lowe starting tonight? Yep, and Bogle & Bennett may be on the bench. Luke Thomas a near-certainty to play a part in at least 15 matches. Sibley at 16 has a squad number and has impressed in pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 hours ago, thederbyram said: Yep, and Bogle & Bennett may be on the bench. Luke Thomas a near-certainty to play a part in at least 15 matches. Sibley at 16 has a squad number and has impressed in pre-season. Wouldnt say Luke Thomas is a product of our academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, G-Ram said: Wouldnt say Luke Thomas is a product of our academy Get what you're saying but he was brought in as a developmental player along with a few others (mcallister, vernam etc), would you not say we've developed him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, thederbyram said: Get what you're saying but he was brought in as a developmental player along with a few others (mcallister, vernam etc), would you not say we've developed him? “He’s one we developed, he’s one we developed, Luke Thomas, he’s one we developed” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 02/08/2018 at 07:30, cheron85 said: Pretty sure he said Zanzala was better than Martin? They both scored zero goals last year but Zanzala never got a game. Any striker is better than Martin. Let’s just hope that his lack of opportunities- shelved in favour of has been underperformers - isn’t repeated this season. So far looks like the lowes Bennetts and Thomases will be given chances. Zanzala was a different type of striker - a battering ram with a good touch who could finish - not too sure he’d fit lampards preferences but should have been afforded an opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 48 minutes ago, Ninos said: They both scored zero goals last year but Zanzala never got a game. Any striker is better than Martin. Let’s just hope that his lack of opportunities- shelved in favour of has been underperformers - isn’t repeated this season. So far looks like the lowes Bennetts and Thomases will be given chances. Zanzala was a different type of striker - a battering ram with a good touch who could finish - not too sure he’d fit lampards preferences but should have been afforded an opportunity You don't seem to have learnt anything during your absence - "any striker is better than Martin". What an utterly stupid statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 On 04/08/2018 at 13:59, Wolfie20 said: You don't seem to have learnt anything during your absence - "any striker is better than Martin". What an utterly stupid statement. Don't know what you are talking about, personally I would have Ricky Van Wolfswinkel up front than Martin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 On 04/08/2018 at 13:09, Ninos said: They both scored zero goals last year but Zanzala never got a game. Any striker is better than Martin. Let’s just hope that his lack of opportunities- shelved in favour of has been underperformers - isn’t repeated this season. So far looks like the lowes Bennetts and Thomases will be given chances. Zanzala was a different type of striker - a battering ram with a good touch who could finish - not too sure he’d fit lampards preferences but should have been afforded an opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, rynny said: My all time favourite quote from anything ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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