StarterForTen Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I read in the Daily Telegraph that the Rams were looking to get the wage bill down to £22m/season. I'm sure it was reported previously that last year our wage bill was around £34m, so £12m to hack off. Pure guess work but I reckon with Bent, Shackell, Baird, Russell and Weimann off the roster that saves around £120k a week - or £6m/season - so half way there! Chris Martin and Vydra will be hefty earners and look like they are next out of the door, but bearing in mind we'll have to pay the wages of any new recruits (even loan players) how many more need to go to hit the salary target? Maybe another five or six?? Maybe some out on loan again? Mind you, reducing the wage bill by more than a third in a single summer would be quite some going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet on this board is that okay, we may have to reduce the wage bill to this magical £22m, but if we can make a profit this summer on players sales (Vydra + Martin + Weimann - Bayliss/Marriott/whoever), can we not cover a higher wage bill, bearing in mind we have a few high earners out of contract next summer? Say we make £5m net profit, could we not afford £27m wages for this year including loans, new signings, etc? I'm sure we could.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 As well as Vydra, Martin & Weimann, I reckon we'll be looking to shift a couple of the midfielders (2 of Butterfield/Johnson/Ledley/Bryson). Anya and one of Blackman/Nugent/Jerome At that point the current squad of 29, would have reduced to 22 allowing for say 3 incomings (Bayliss, Palmer, Abraham?) = a squad of 25 of which 16 you'd class as seniors and 9 you'd class as youngsters). That would be a far better balanced squad, with a reduced wage bill and just as competitive a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Didn't we received some money for Ince at the end of the season? Plus we got decent compo for Rowett going - can't both of these things be put towards reducing/covering the wages? I also think Lampard may be on a lower wage than Rowett was with it being his first job? Not sure on that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 We're halfway there We're looking good now And nothing's gonna get in the way We're halfway there And looking back now I never thought that I'd ever say we should probably sell Weimann We're halfway there We're halfway there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I hope we're not living on a prayer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, Carnero said: That would be a far better balanced squad, with a reduced wage bill and just as competitive a team. Really? Who knows! The obsession with reducing our wage bill could be at the detriment of the team. Plus any incomings aren't going to play for a tenner a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: I read in the Daily Telegraph that the Rams were looking to get the wage bill down to £22m/season. I'm sure it was reported previously that last year our wage bill was around £34m, so £12m to hack off. Pure guess work but I reckon with Bent, Shackell, Baird, Russell and Weimann off the roster that saves around £120k a week - or £6m/season - so half way there! Chris Martin and Vydra will be hefty earners and look like they are next out of the door, but bearing in mind we'll have to pay the wages of any new recruits (even loan players) how many more need to go to hit the salary target? Maybe another five or six?? Maybe some out on loan again? Mind you, reducing the wage bill by more than a third in a single summer would be quite some going. I don’t remember by when they said we needed to get our wage bill down £22-23 million a year? Probably a sliding scale I would suspect whilst spending sensibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtheram Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Ledley, Nugent, Olsson, Butterfield and Bryson all need getting off of the wage bill. Add to that Weimann who has now joined Bristol- Winnall who is no longer our player - Martin who im pretty sure wont be here and Vydra who is likely to leave us. That would be alot off. Loan out some of the youth who are earning and get the club to pay half of their wage a week (Thomas, Bogle, Guy, Elsnik, Lowe, Bennett) and we willl save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Really? Who knows! The obsession with reducing our wage bill could be at the detriment of the team. Plus any incomings aren't going to play for a tenner a week. I would! (but then I am in my 50's and overweight ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, HantsRam said: I would! (but then I am in my 50's and overweight ?) Hmmm, Rowetts looking for new youngsters! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Edtheram said: Ledley, Nugent, Olsson, Butterfield and Bryson all need getting off of the wage bill. Add to that Weimann who has now joined Bristol- Winnall who is no longer our player - Martin who im pretty sure wont be here and Vydra who is likely to leave us. That would be alot off. Loan out some of the youth who are earning and get the club to pay half of their wage a week (Thomas, Bogle, Guy, Elsnik, Lowe, Bennett) and we willl save. Olsson’s wages will be covered by the insurance now he’s injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Does the wage bill include all club employees? We have heard that the club have cut the number of staff at the academy and with the reduction in hours of the ticket office, less staff are needed. So it looks like savings are being made across the whole club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam! Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Carnero said: As well as Vydra, Martin & Weimann, I reckon we'll be looking to shift a couple of the midfielders (2 of Butterfield/Johnson/Ledley/Bryson). Anya and ALL of Blackman/Nugent/Jerome At that point the current squad of 29, would have reduced to 22 allowing for say 3 incomings (Bayliss, Palmer, Abraham?) = a squad of 25 of which 16 you'd class as seniors and 9 you'd class as youngsters). That would be a far better balanced squad, with a reduced wage bill and just as competitive a team. One can only dream...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, Edtheram said: Ledley, Nugent, Olsson, Butterfield and Bryson all need getting off of the wage bill. Add to that Weimann who has now joined Bristol- Winnall who is no longer our player - Martin who im pretty sure wont be here and Vydra who is likely to leave us. That would be alot off. Loan out some of the youth who are earning and get the club to pay half of their wage a week (Thomas, Bogle, Guy, Elsnik, Lowe, Bennett) and we willl save. Not sure we want to loan out the very players who we are hoping will break through into the first team? Maybe drop down a level of experience and loan out Zanzala, Gordon, Bird and Hunt. McAllister I would add to your list if he can keep fit and is not ready to make the step up (although probably the most experienced in terms of adult football. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, Edtheram said: Ledley, Nugent, Olsson, Butterfield and Bryson all need getting off of the wage bill. Add to that Weimann who has now joined Bristol- Winnall who is no longer our player - Martin who im pretty sure wont be here and Vydra who is likely to leave us. That would be alot off. Loan out some of the youth who are earning and get the club to pay half of their wage a week (Thomas, Bogle, Guy, Elsnik, Lowe, Bennett) and we willl save. Great post and a silly post all in one right there. Top half great. I agree those need to be moved on. High earners treading water here and not deserving of the huge wages they are on. Unless Lamps can get them playing again. bottom half silly. Most of them aren’t earning loads and are out with the first team. If we want to cut costs we need to use them players. Why would we loan them out and pay half their wages? We have to pay most clubs to loan there players plus there wages. I hope you don’t own your own business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 £22m seems like a lot, but I'm fairly sure it would put us in the lower etches of the Championship? Forest were currently at £26m and they were paying a bunch of kids and frauds. It seems like a pretty significant cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, ossieram said: Does the wage bill include all club employees? We have heard that the club have cut the number of staff at the academy and with the reduction in hours of the ticket office, less staff are needed. So it looks like savings are being made across the whole club. Haven't replaced Sam Rush's salary have we? Another potentially material saving. Another possibility is that with Frank being brand new to management, he hasn't had the time to build up a posse of hangers on, ego massagers and assorted coaches. Mac 1 ran the show with him, Eric and Simmo - don't see why Frank can't aim for a lean model like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Sounds good, but we are also in need of fresh blood, and that means wages spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ambitious said: £22m seems like a lot, but I'm fairly sure it would put us in the lower etches of the Championship? Forest were currently at £26m and they were paying a bunch of kids and frauds. It seems like a pretty significant cut. in 2016/17 £22m wage bills were Birmingham, Blackburn and Huddersfield Town. Higher than 8 other clubs. Forest's was £29m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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