ilkleyram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, StringerBell said: Are you sure you don't know number 1? Used to play for Manu. Perhaps I should SB but not immediately, no. And maybe in part that's my point. There was a recent time when an overseas player was exotic to the fans of the club he played for and also to others, because they were a wonderful rarity and stood out because of it. I watch about 30/35 live Rams matches a year, have a season ticket and travel thousands of miles. No big deal - thousands more do the same for our club and every other club. But I've never felt more divorced from the wider world of football. Looking down that list of names just makes the feeling even greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 26 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Told Lawrence interested in the move, Leicester won't sanction it until they bring in another forward. Gary is happy to bide his time, fee is £7m+. James is more keen on fighting for his place He's hardly ever played for them so why are they so bothered about replacing him before a sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I really hope this deal goes through ! From all the wingers we've been linked with Lawrence us the only one that I think can replace Ince. I feel we will he q lot more equipped for success this year with this signing , missing link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: What about number 1, 4,6 and 10? Surely you must have heard Patrick Roberts during his time at Fulham? See above for 1 DEL; 4 and 6 no; 10 perhaps, but not instantly, no. And I'm not being funny about this, nor trying to make a deep and meaningful point other than it's just about me. But I think I can reasonably argue that I am a committed Rams fan and watch a lot of football in which the Rams are involved. But there was a time when I could name the main players in the opposition team that we were about to play, when I would know which players from other teams I would like us to sign and seeing that list, which I guess is not a list of particularly special players, I realise that I no longer can do that. I genuinely don't know most of them. Just put it down to my age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, admira said: He's hardly ever played for them so why are they so bothered about replacing him before a sale? I'm not certain, but it could be to do with them possibly losing Mahrez as well as Gray not fully committing his future to them until he's assured of first team football. So they'd probably be reluctant to lose 3 wingers in 1 window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRam1 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Told Lawrence interested in the move, Leicester won't sanction it until they bring in another forward. Gary is happy to bide his time, fee is £7m+. James is more keen on fighting for his place Is there any more teams in for him mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, admira said: He's hardly ever played for them so why are they so bothered about replacing him before a sale? Not necessarily a replacement, just depth and security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, JayRam1 said: Is there any more teams in for him mate? Yes but not at the money we're talking at (yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, ilkleyram said: Perhaps I should SB but not immediately, no. And maybe in part that's my point. There was a recent time when an overseas player was exotic to the fans of the club he played for and also to others, because they were a wonderful rarity and stood out because of it. I watch about 30/35 live Rams matches a year, have a season ticket and travel thousands of miles. No big deal - thousands more do the same for our club and every other club. But I've never felt more divorced from the wider world of football. Looking down that list of names just makes the feeling even greater So you're saying there's an over-saturation of foreign players to the point they're not seen as exotic now? I know what you mean, it used to be the star striker or flair winger, but now even the mundane box to box midfielders and defenders aren't British. That player gave a good account of himself in a World Cup and then moved to Manu. He got a reputation for being a bit of a supersub. Old fashioned goal poacher. A poor mans Darren Bent ? It's easy to lose touch even if you try and follow football around the world though, I followed the Bundesliga quite heavily 3 or 4 years ago but found if I didn't find the time to follow it closely for just six months then all of a sudden there's these next big things I've never heard of. If I get out of the habit of watching MOTD things can pass me by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, ilkleyram said: See above for 1 DEL; 4 and 6 no; 10 perhaps, but not instantly, no. And I'm not being funny about this, nor trying to make a deep and meaningful point other than it's just about me. But I think I can reasonably argue that I am a committed Rams fan and watch a lot of football in which the Rams are involved. But there was a time when I could name the main players in the opposition team that we were about to play, when I would know which players from other teams I would like us to sign and seeing that list, which I guess is not a list of particularly special players, I realise that I no longer can do that. I genuinely don't know most of them. Just put it down to my age! That's understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'm the same @ilkleyram used to be able to name whole teams, who they played for prior to their current club and all that but I can't now. I wonder if it's down to either not seeing footballers as gods anymore or my dwindling interest in other teams. I pay very attention to the Premier League currently, that'll change when we get there mind but that would have been unthinkable at one time. As long as I don't forget who's playing for us, I'm not going to let it bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Yes but not at the money we're talking at (yet) Which club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 21 minutes ago, ilkleyram said: Perhaps I should SB but not immediately, no. And maybe in part that's my point. There was a recent time when an overseas player was exotic to the fans of the club he played for and also to others, because they were a wonderful rarity and stood out because of it. I watch about 30/35 live Rams matches a year, have a season ticket and travel thousands of miles. No big deal - thousands more do the same for our club and every other club. But I've never felt more divorced from the wider world of football. Looking down that list of names just makes the feeling even greater Chicharito, or Javier Hernandez, dubbed the new Solksjaer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, EastHertsRam said: I'm the same @ilkleyram used to be able to name whole teams, who they played for prior to their current club and all that but I can't now. I wonder if it's down to either not seeing footballers as gods anymore or my dwindling interest in other teams. Or dementia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRam1 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Yes but not at the money we're talking at (yet) That will be villa then! Just hope no premier league teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, i-Ram said: Or dementia? That's why I ended my post with As long as I don't forget who's playing for us, I'm not going to let it bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 47 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Told Lawrence interested in the move, Leicester won't sanction it until they bring in another forward. Gary is happy to bide his time, fee is £7m+. James is more keen on fighting for his place We still interested in James despite getting huddlestone then mate? Gary looking at another midfielder for playing a midfield three then perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, rynny said: Chicharito, or Javier Hernandez, dubbed the new Solksjaer. Thanks rynny. Can't say that he particularly registers but maybe that's my point. According to another website which I've just been on because of the (helpful) comments on here, he's just cost £16m and has a contract that pays him £140k per week or about £6m a year. The Manu side that drew 4-4 with us on Boxing Day in Les Green's last match for us I could name and abuse from 1 to 11. This guy has past me by. My age, my fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: We still interested in James despite getting huddlestone then mate? Gary looking at another midfielder for playing a midfield three then perhaps? James seems to be a bit of everything and can play in a 2 or 3 better than some of our current midfielders that aren't suited to 1 or the other? Just my thoughts on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Regarding not knowing players, I think the worlds got larger even though it's got smaller if that makes sense. That many players from every corner of the globe these days being unearthed there's an abundance of them. Going back over the years though, how many had heard of asanovic, baiano, eranio, stomach wanchope etc that adorned our hallowed turf? Also some of it is the amount of transfers these days. Used to get 2 or 3 and spread out throughout the season whereas now clubs are buying double figures and all condensed into specific transfer windows so there's just that any going on its hard to keep track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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