Stimacked Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 The tight defence was drilled by a certain Nigel Pearson. Has the fluidity returned to midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 We're simply not creating chances. Vydra as a lone forward doesn't have the skills to bring others into play. He's a final pass striker, and our final pass just isn't there as our attacking players behind the striker aren't good enough. Can't believe people don't want Chris Martin back here. 'Never go back' or 'Move on' they say. With him we were one of the highest scorers in the league, without him we're the lowest. Isn't rocket science is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 32 minutes ago, jcidaho said: I'm not suggesting correlation implies causation but we've been in decline since we signed Tom Ince. And bent. ....and weimann. ....and shackell. We were going to walk the league with that lot said some..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just now, HantsRam said: And bent. ....and weimann. ....and shackell. We were going to walk the league with that lot said some..... I still think Wiemann needs a fair crack. He hasn't been bad when has got a run in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: 23 goals in 64 appearances for Derby according to Wikipedea. He really isn't as bad as some people on this forum think, that also doesn't include his assists. Just watch him play, prefer my own judgement to statistics. Never achieves anything other than a few token jumps for headers and chasing a defender. really amazes me he still gets brought on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Mac must be pulling what's left of his hair out at our strikers...... Getting their goalscoring mojo back is going to take him longer than I thought Everything else seems to be clicking, the defence and midfield are tight as drums All pointing to one thing.... We desperately need super chris Martin back..... Or it points to a midfield who cant play a long pass. Hughes bryson butterfield all like tippy tappy, and sometimes you need to play a ball into space or have the vision to see a throughball. I still cant decide if our midfielders and wide men are stuck in their chris martin ways, or whether they lack confidence to play the risky forward ball, or just arent capable of crossing or playing the longer pass. I suspect it a combination of all 3. If our players werent all one trick ponies unable to adapt I imagine Pearson might have got better results out of them aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Bris Vegas said: We're simply not creating chances. Vydra as a lone forward doesn't have the skills to bring others into play. He's a final pass striker, and our final pass just isn't there as our attacking players behind the striker aren't good enough. Can't believe people don't want Chris Martin back here. 'Never go back' or 'Move on' they say. With him we were one of the highest scorers in the league, without him we're the lowest. Isn't rocket science is it? But he's lazy and fat and doesn't run and falls over and moans and shags people's wives /s. Give me Chris Martin anyday over some of the dross I've seen put on a Derby shirt over the years. Best striker in 20 years and people wouldn't want him back. Early days for Vydra yet and admittedly he's had little time with Mac, but not seeing anything that could be seen as an improvement on Martin apart from the fact that he runs more (and even then, that's not as important as knowing when to run). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Canitbé Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: We're simply not creating chances. Vydra as a lone forward doesn't have the skills to bring others into play. He's a final pass striker, and our final pass just isn't there as our attacking players behind the striker aren't good enough. Can't believe people don't want Chris Martin back here. 'Never go back' or 'Move on' they say. With him we were one of the highest scorers in the league, without him we're the lowest. Isn't rocket science is it? The point is that Fulham have paid us a substantial fee to keep Martin on a season long loan. All three parties (Derby, Fulham and Martin) have to agree to terminate the loan, and according to the Fulham head coach he has no intention of allowing Martin to return to Derby before his loan is over, i.e. the end of the season. He's not coming back this season, no matter how much we need him, unless Fulham suddenly decide they don't him. In other news, 1-0 Huddersfield. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1-0 down. ******* ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1-0 to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Be bottom 3 shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Lol in stoppage time as per usual, 0 bottle again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: We're simply not creating chances. Vydra as a lone forward doesn't have the skills to bring others into play. He's a final pass striker, and our final pass just isn't there as our attacking players behind the striker aren't good enough. Can't believe people don't want Chris Martin back here. 'Never go back' or 'Move on' they say. With him we were one of the highest scorers in the league, without him we're the lowest. Isn't rocket science is it? In fairness we were also one of the lowest scoring teams with him, in the second half of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just now, Rich84 said: 1-0 to them Listening to the commentary is thought Derby had scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbydave96 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I think we should try going 4231 with Hughes as a 10 in behind Vydra. All our best chances seem to be created when he is involved high up the pitch and he plays with such speed of thought that he could allow us to speed things up and give us that cutting edge in the final third. I know he doesn't carry that direct goal threat consistently, but he definitely has the ability to bring others into play and would surely create enough chances to make up for the lack of screamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 A last minute goal away because we weren't concentrating? What a surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Creating absolutely **** all chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Canitbé Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 We've kept three clean sheets in four. Our problem isn't conceding, our problem is that we're not scoring enough. The defence is one of the most consistent in the league, but they can't stop us conceding every single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFc Dyycheee Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 ******* joke. Bunch of bottlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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