deano180 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: 100% disagree. They were more than likely shell-shocked that their 'manager' decided to leave the back four completely exposed. Rotherham had nothing going forward while Thorne & Martin were still on the pitch because they couldn't get hold of the ball. 5 minutes before their 1st goal we had 69% possession and were cruising. Did the players decide to change the shape and take two of the best three players on the pitch off??? Shell shocked lol, professionals ffs. I said the formation and subs contributed, but my 'manager' often makes decisions I disagree with, but I still try my hardest regardless of his decision. I didn't see that through that bombardment of long balls in last ten mins, 100% disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: 100% disagree. They were more than likely shell-shocked that their 'manager' decided to leave the back four completely exposed. Rotherham had nothing going forward while Thorne & Martin were still on the pitch because they couldn't get hold of the ball. 5 minutes before their 1st goal we had 69% possession and were cruising. Did the players decide to change the shape and take two of the best three players on the pitch off??? Of course, everyone agrees (bar Wassall i think) that the substitutions were foolish. But you'd hope that our players would be professional enough and mentally strong enough to avoid suffering 'shell-shock' at a couple of dodgy substitutions from a rookie manager. They should have been able to hold out for a win even if Wassall had brought on Rammie and the Tea Lady for the last 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryram Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Completly agree we need a real protest against the idiot that is DW. The man lacks any common sense, you don't need to be a football genius to know that being 3-0 up is not an invitation to go more attacking. What a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I've changed my mind about Wassall after reflecting on today's game I think he has started to turn things around. I think I saw some light at the end of the tunnel. As much as I'm disappointed at the result we played ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKRam Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 30 minutes ago, deano180 said: Yes the formation and subs were a contributing factor, but the players for me take the most responsibility in today's shambles. Our soft underbelly still exists from the Mac days, Clement did a good job on limiting them, but that wasn't the Derby way, drawing 3 - 3 at Rotherham two seasons back to back is. 80% the players fault in my eyes. Ok. Say in a game of football 5 substitutions could be made. Being someone who has The Derby Way dear to his heart and someone who knows the potential of our academy products, our head coach decided to bring in five U21 forwards when we are leading 3-0. As it turns out, the opposition leveled the score and we dropped two points. In this scenario, would you blame the six first team players left on the pitch? Mind you those six are also forwards so it means we were playing a 1-0-10 formation in the last ten minutes. Just want to understand your logic, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, deano180 said: Shell shocked lol, professionals ffs. I said the formation and subs contributed, but my 'manager' often makes decisions I disagree with, but I still try my hardest regardless of his decision. I didn't see that through that bombardment of long balls in last ten mins, 100% disagree. Maybe shell-shocked was a poor choice of words but Waffall completely screwed up and must take the majority of the blame. Like you I've played the game, at a decent standard, and have lost games because my manager decided to mess around when things were going perfectly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24/7ram Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Wassell has to go and go quickly i have not felt as embrassed as I did today coming out of a ground since forest 5-2 finding his interview with radio Derby quite disturbing came across as clueless and not to take any of the blame is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, HKRam said: Ok. Say in a game of football 5 substitutions could be made. Being someone who has The Derby Way dear to his heart and someone who knows the potential of our academy products, our head coach decided to bring in five U21 forwards when we are leading 3-0. As it turns out, the opposition leveled the score and we dropped two points. In this scenario, would you blame the six first team players left on the pitch? Mind you those six are also forwards so it means we were playing a 1-0-10 formation in the last ten minutes. Just want to understand your logic, that's all. My logic of the Derby way as it stands is attacking, fluent, football diced with a gutless mentality of endless mistakes and lack of heart and passion when it counts. That's what I saw today, that's what I saw against Brum last season, Hudds and Roth away. Clement solved some of these problems for the price of others, Mel will regret this stupid saying in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryram Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Just watched wassals interview apparently the substitutions had nothing to do with!!!! What an absolute idiot, needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Quote “We haven’t, we have drawn 3-3 and totally undeservedly, but you get what you deserve in football. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I've had a bit of time to mull over the result and here is the answer to all of our problems: support Burton Albion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, deano180 said: That's what I saw today, that's what I saw against Brum last season, Hudds and Roth away. I know what you are saying and please excuse the pedantry but do you mean the 2-2 at home to brum last season or the 3-3 away. Which was actually the season before. It doesn't invalidate your point as both were capitulations. Is it worse giving up a winning position at home or away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Palimpsest said: Blackman for Thorne at 75 shows you how lacking in basic intelligence this man is. He has to go before Forest. Time for real protest. can I ask why you cannot voice your discontent without resorting to being so disrespectful? It's not difficult to say that Wassall is not very good at his job without calling him an idiot. Gives an impression that you really lack intelligence, and then ultimately that your opinion isn't very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCAR Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I knew when my train got cancelled the day was gonna go t*ts up Really enjoyed it up to minute 82 Completely outplayed them oooops.... Comments rather OT YES.... Bring Billy back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Mostyn6 said: can I ask why you cannot voice your discontent without resorting to being so disrespectful? It's not difficult to say that Wassall is not very good at his job without calling him an idiot. Gives an impression that you really lack intelligence, and then ultimately that your opinion isn't very important. Agreed. I'd like a proper manager in, I couldn't believe we went down this path on the day it was announced. And I've seen nothing (I've been to every match) to change that opinion. But I'm not going to get personal. I think Wassall is out of his depth. I don't think the players as a whole are that bothered because they know he's not here long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 There's still time to get the tea lady as the new interim manager for the interim manager. What on earth was he thinking with those subs? Has he never played football manager before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rams forever Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, Chris Mills said: I've had a bit of time to mull over the result and here is the answer to all of our problems: support Burton Albion Grounds not big enough for us lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepshedram Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, 24/7ram said: i have not felt as embrassed as I did today coming out of a ground since forest 5-2 I felt pretty embarrassed in the ground by many of our fans, especially at 3-0 up .. 'we're on the pitch if Benty scores' and 'you're f*****g ****' aimed at Rotherham on continual repeat - is that the best we can manage? Low grade p**s taking instead of supporting your team...we lack as much nous as the players did defensively in the last 8 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 1 minute ago, HantsRam said: I know what you are saying and please excuse the pedantry but do you mean the 2-2 at home to brum last season or the 3-3 away. Which was actually the season before. It doesn't invalidate your point as both were capitulations. Is it worse giving up a winning position at home or away? The home fixture last yr, although the previous season away wasn't much better lol. I'm all for a new manager right now, don't think Wassell is up to it, but I can't excuse the players in that final 10 today. Makes it worse knowing we have the red dogs next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCArmy Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I'm trying to find a reason to keep him until the end of the season.... but....noting that was gutting and laughable at the same time, we've been doing it for 2 seasons now though so its no shock is it, we haven't earned the "their derby they'll find a way to **** it up again" for nothing, can't just blame it all on Wassall as we did this last season under mcclaren, and we bottled the playoff final. We need a strong arm ffs, for the love of god mel go and get Nigel Pearson before Boro nip in and steal him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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