SaintRam Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: I think it's a very unsophisticated form of showing discontent. One of the lowest forms of group intelligence. I don't get cross about much but I absolutely hate booing your own team or singling players out for personal abuse... It cost 50 p when I was 5 and is costing me about a grand total trip to come over and see Man Utd and MK Dons games... But I won't be booing... That you can be sure of. Some of our " fans" we're on players backs ( John McGovern and Hinton) when we were winning the bleedin league championship.. So nowts changed. Still moany old Derby. Just curious, what's a sophisticated form of showing discontent? You know, in a way that will get through to the players directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I was there i did not boo, but it was pretty disappointing tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 18 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: I think it's a very unsophisticated form of showing discontent. One of the lowest forms of group intelligence. I don't get cross about much but I absolutely hate booing your own team or singling players out for personal abuse... It cost 50 p when I was 5 and is costing me about a grand total trip to come over and see Man Utd and MK Dons games... But I won't be booing... That you can be sure of. Some of our " fans" we're on players backs ( John McGovern and Hinton) when we were winning the bleedin league championship.. So nowts changed. Still moany old Derby. Yes well I don't boo because I get a weekly appraisal with each individual player each week so I don't have to. Actually I'm not sure I've ever booed but if others want to after players haven't been pulling their weight then fair enough. If Chris Martin, who's probably earning a good 10k a week at least for the privilege of wearing a Ram on his chest, doesn't make you demean yourself by booing when he's crawling on the floor looking for another free kick then well done to you. I can understand people who do though. So good for you. But if you're telling me there isn't a line that can be crossed in the equation of how much you sacrifice + how much the players earn + the effort the players put in then I don't believe you. For some the line has already been crossed. For you it hasn't. But you have a line. Everyone does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I felt the boos were aimed at the ref, not the players, fwiw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 30 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: 2nd... We are SECOND!!!!!! But on a downward trajectory. Others are catchingup quickly and we're falling further away from 1st. Remind me - we were there albeit briefly weren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 This isn't me being sarcastic Stockholm, mate, but other than booing, how do you let the players know tonight's performance and lack of effort was unacceptable? You could tweet them, but we all know when fans tweet players they go a bit over the top because they're behind a screen. You could not turn up to the next game, but that has an affect on the club's finances. As I said before, I wasn't there tonight and I wouldn't boo them myself, but it's probably the best way to let the players know they need to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Lets all stay at home next match...that will show them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, Cam the Ram said: This isn't me being sarcastic Stockholm, mate, but other than booing, how do you let the players know tonight's performance and lack of effort was unacceptable? You could tweet them, but we all know when fans tweet players they go a bit over the top because they're behind a screen. You could not turn up to the next game, but that has an affect on the club's finances. As I said before, I wasn't there tonight and I wouldn't boo them myself, but it's probably the best way to let the players know they need to do more. I think as professionals the players would know themselves whether they played badly or not, without needing to be told. If not, then PC would let them know himselves. I feel booing after one poor performance is going to be nothing but negative. After a season of mainly highs to turn after one game, where we still remain in the automatic places, is very fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, reveldevil said: I felt the boos were aimed at the ref, not the players, fwiw! I thought it was aimed at the ref , and it looks like we've got him again for the brum game Booooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 The only thing PC didn't do in his interview was Boo. He showed his frustration at that display and supporters have their right to do the same. That was the worst performance for a long time and we pay money and stand outside in the cold. I left on 82 btw bu I think I would have booed at the final whistle. 2 points out of 9 just isn't good enough with the squad we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: I think it's a very unsophisticated form of showing discontent. One of the lowest forms of group intelligence. I don't get cross about much but I absolutely hate booing your own team or singling players out for personal abuse... It cost 50 p when I was 5 and is costing me about a grand total trip to come over and see Man Utd and MK Dons games... But I won't be booing... That you can be sure of. Some of our " fans" we're on players backs ( John McGovern and Hinton) when we were winning the bleedin league championship.. So nowts changed. Still moany old Derby. John McGovern scored the goal that decided the League Championship not long after his rash back pass put George Graham through to deny us a cup final. Most fans (myself included) felt that he had redeemed himself by the Liverpool goal. However.... A certain Brian Clough used to remind him before every cup match at Derby and Forest "Just remember, young man, you cost me a cup final!" So it's not just the odd moany fan! (I still hate booing though, it's almost as bad as monkey chanting.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 We were truly awful tonight, but I'd never boo, embarrassing alot did. Moan and groan during the game when Martin does naff all again that's fair enough but they're not going to want to play for fans that boo them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, StringerBell said: Yes well I don't boo because I get a weekly appraisal with each individual player each week so I don't have to. Actually I'm not sure I've ever booed but if others want to after players haven't been pulling their weight then fair enough. If Chris Martin, who's probably earning a good 10k a week at least for the privilege of wearing a Ram on his chest, doesn't make you demean yourself by booing when he's crawling on the floor looking for another free kick then well done to you. I can understand people who do though. So good for you. But if you're telling me there isn't a line that can be crossed in the equation of how much you sacrifice + how much the players earn + the effort the players put in then I don't believe you. For some the line has already been crossed. For you it hasn't. But you have a line. Everyone does. My line would probably be not to go anymore. There's been a couple of " crooked" times in the history of me being a supporter that I've thought I might not want to go anymore until this is all over... But I have never felt the need to boo the team, or players ever. I don't think that is ever acceptable.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 **** performance gets a **** response. Shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Some fans are so entitled and have the shortest of memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, reveldevil said: I felt the boos were aimed at the ref, not the players, fwiw! Was the ref particularly poor? There's been no hint of any controversy in any data feeds I've been following. The stats just suggest we were not great. Few shots. Almost none on target. Even in terms of possession. A lot of fouls by the look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Just curious, what's a sophisticated form of showing discontent? You know, in a way that will get through to the players directly. I'm not sure I would class myself as sophisticated ( mrs Stockholm I'm sure would disagree) but I've always used self restraint. Even with clowns sitting behind me moaning at McGovern, Keogh, Pickering ( Nick) , Martin..list goes on. I get frustration but find the need to boo a bit cave man... I'd hoped to be a bit more evolved than that, even coming off Breadsall Hilltop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 41 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: 2nd... We are SECOND!!!!!! We didn't lose a war. Nobody died. We didn't even lose a game of football either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 55 minutes ago, StockholmRam said: Oh dear this is what worries me. Fans who know Nowt. Sorry but this " we've paid our cash so we can boo" stuff. Are you kidding!!!! We've a new coach, 6/7 new players.. Not played well and STILL 2nd... I'm sorry but to boo this team and coach or whoever they are booing out there is cretinous. Ive watched Derby since 5 years old.. Been to hundreds of games both home and away..spend MY hard earned cash time and again and not once booed my team. Never. That's what cretins do... you keep on booing..See if it helps one iota... You're right but that performance wasn't great, in fact awful, as others point out letting them know AFTER the game is fine if people want to vent, they are not above criticism. Clement said as much and judging by his interview will say a damned sight more. Need to move on quick, next game please, few socks pulled up and go again. p.s didn't boo myself, too disappointed, but just think it was understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 33 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: but the fans tried hard to lift the team to no avail. When? The support was awful tonight, no atmosphere, what's the point in having a drum if it's not drummed, boo to the fans! Boooo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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