rammieib Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Look at this another way, if IPro ever pull out of this deal, then they are pretty much done for as a company in the UK. Even though I am sure there are notices in the contract, they will still be buggered as their reputations will be damaged no end. They have far more to gamble on this than DCFC. The income stream to Derby from the deal is the equivalent of drawing Man Utd or Forest at home in the F.A Cup which is shown on television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I can't exactly put my finger on it eddie. I think I've gone from having total faith in the board AND Sam Rush to now doubting him at every turn. If he told me it was Thursday today I would have to check twice. Agree with this. Can't put my finger on it but I just don't trust a word he says. He wouldn't lie straight in bed. Worryingly it's similar to how I felt about Murdo Mackay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1106 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 All I know is that energy drinks work wonders against a hangover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I again no one buy the bloody drink end of and spread the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I again no one buy the bloody drink end of and spread the word.why the hate B4? These people are helping us and themselves too. So what? Just don't call it iPro if you don't want to, it's not worth stressing out about. Money is money, and until you win the lottery and invest it all into Derby, they will continue to find ways to get around the fair play financial rules. Chill mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Why is it a massive gamble? We're not exactly staking a lot on it - and we've made nothing from the stadium naming rights for 16 years. What difference would another couple of years of earning nothing make? its a gamble because we will be spending money against expected revenue, and should that revenue disappear then we would be left with a shortfall that would need to be covered. That said I dont know what the issue is; due diligence would have been carried out in a deal like this, and I think that they should be credited with pulling off such a deal. Fair enough moan about the name change; but a lot of the mistrust comes from someone doing their job correctly and removing a manager that was not good enough to take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 All I know is that energy drinks work wonders against a hangover. An orange and banana work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 its a gamble because we will be spending money against expected revenue, and should that revenue disappear then we would be left with a shortfall that would need to be covered.That said I dont know what the issue is; due diligence would have been carried out in a deal like this, and I think that they should be credited with pulling off such a deal.Fair enough moan about the name change; but a lot of the mistrust comes from someone doing their job correctly and removing a manager that was not good enough to take us forward.I think they may have learn a lesson on not to spend money before you get it, remember they got flooked with the last parachute payment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Bloody hell, this stadium deal gets better Derby County @dcfcofficial5m #dcfcfans, you can get 25% off of @IProSport drinks by entering the code 'IPROSTADIUM' online at http://www.iprosport.com/iprostore/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 its a gamble because we will be spending money against expected revenue, and should that revenue disappear then we would be left with a shortfall that would need to be covered. That said I dont know what the issue is; due diligence would have been carried out in a deal like this, and I think that they should be credited with pulling off such a deal. Fair enough moan about the name change; but a lot of the mistrust comes from someone doing their job correctly and removing a manager that was not good enough to take us forward. The expense is surely only the advertising around the Stadium? The piece in the Telegraph seems to be saying that each years instalment is up front so I don't see the gamble personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 its a gamble because we will be spending money against expected revenue, and should that revenue disappear then we would be left with a shortfall that would need to be covered. That said I dont know what the issue is; due diligence would have been carried out in a deal like this, and I think that they should be credited with pulling off such a deal. Fair enough moan about the name change; but a lot of the mistrust comes from someone doing their job correctly and removing a manager that was not good enough to take us forward. The money is paid up front every year so there is no gamble. Do you really think we are going to be spending future years income? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 why the hate B4? These people are helping us and themselves too. So what? Just don't call it iPro if you don't want to, it's not worth stressing out about. Money is money, and until you win the lottery and invest it all into Derby, they will continue to find ways to get around the fair play financial rules. Chill mate. He's got a very good point I think, lets all boycott someone who is putting £700k a year into the club. Once they have gone bust I thought maybe we could move on to buymobiles.net, Toyota, and University of Derby. PS - I think we can still win the title without any sponsorship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The money is paid up front every year so there is no gamble. Do you really think we are going to be spending future years income? im no accountant like some ;-) but we are continually spending future years income, be it season ticket, tv, or sponsorship money. I dont know the ins and outs of the sponsorship, but if we sign a player in Jan on the back of this; which we have indicated we will, I would suspect that the deal will be over 3 years and would probably be based on future installments from this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 You would not see man u changing old tradfford would you nor would see liverpool change anfield that is my probleam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 You would not see man u changing old tradfford would you nor would see liverpool change anfield that is my probleam. We're not Liverpool or Manchester United, B4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran Van Rams Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 You would not see man u changing old tradfford would you nor would see liverpool change anfield that is my probleam. yes and? Man City changed the name of their Stadium to the 'Etihad' and Arsenal to the 'Emirates'. New stadiums without any real history or heritage change names all the time and will going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 yes and? Man City changed the name of their Stadium to the 'Etihad' and Arsenal to the 'Emirates'. New stadiums without any real history or heritage change names all the time and will going forward. did they? What were they before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Old Trafford is historic. Look at what they have achieved there. Same for Anfield. What have Derby achieved at PP? A huge part of our fanbase considers the Baseball Ground our home. Pride Park can't step into the BBG shoes at its young age. It's too new and has no history. In time that should change. But the way football is I imagine it will have had several different names by then. Changing name will be a regular occurrence. That's football. *****. Old Trafford carries so much history, great players, titles, European nights, great managers, bad times, awful managers, lower division football. It's historic. If they moved then I'm sure they'd look to sponsorship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 You would not see man u changing old tradfford would you nor would see liverpool change anfield that is my probleam.may be if we were still at the Baseball Ground but Pride Park doesn't mean a great deal to me. Take the money i say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I can understand people who are vaguely uncomfortable with the idea of changing the stadium name, mainly because it just feels a bit corporate, and is all about the side of football that is wrong these days (football as a business not a sport) I'm not one of them, I couldn't care less, really can't get excited about it either way. I obviously see a lot of people who are much the same. What I can't fathom are those who seem violently and angrily opposed to it. I can only conclude that they have a mild form of autism or OCD that makes it difficult for them to accept. The same way they would react if they were told black is now white. It just doesn't compute because of the way their brain is wired, so they lash out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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