In the pub , Charlton fans having a moan , our crowd of Derby fans in here having a sing song , perfect away performance from the lads , Adams and Max were fantastic , would like to give a big shout out for Sonny Bradley , excellent performance in the back 3 , well done to Warney , team selection spot on , fans magnificent as always , with other results the rollercoaster ride to the end of the season has started COYR
Shocking news about Everton. Are Wycombe suing as well? I know they weren’t in that league at the time and so there is no tangible effect but that has never stopped them before has it. Couhig will no doubt be all over it!
Sure this won’t be popular but I think Warne should have until Xmas to have us in the top six. I would call myself pro-stability rather than pro-Warne and I understand why so many of the fans have turned - we haven’t improved as quickly as any of us would want and we’re currently not good enough going forward.
But I’d say he deserves longer to fix that than it looks like he’s going to get.
My concern is that the fanbase seems to think that a change of manager could get us into the top two and speed up our promotion, I think that’s wrong - the top two is gone already imo and having another new manager coming in isn’t going to speed up our timeline.
How many times this past decade have we sacked a manager because we thought it would get us promotion quicker? Look where we are now. I think that the fanbases expectations have been damaged by that and we’re now turning on managers quicker than we should.
If people are being real with themselves, how many of you are Warne out because you’re panicking that we’ll be in League One again next season? It’s short-termism. As much as Ipswich spent a few seasons more than they’d like in League One, they get promoted the right way and are reaping the benefits now.
Sacking another manager early into the season isn’t doing things the right way. Said this before but the day after the Villa playoff final, we had a squad made up of seven managers different signings. Whereas in 13/14, McClaren inherited a unified, hungry dressing room all signed by one manager.
Chopping and changing is what got us into this mess, we’ve just let a manager shape our squad and now we’re going to get rid of him before the halfway point of the season?
I see a lot of people talking about the top two - I thought that was unlikely after the first five games, it was an overhauled squad which was still adding players who were going to be in the starting XI (Fornah, John-Jules, Nyambe). It didn’t look cohesive and I didn’t think we’d have a good enough start to put together an automatics push. So far, that looks like an accurate assessment.
Part of why I’ve had patience with Warne is that I think we were closer to starting from scratch than it looked on paper. I agree that the 5 at the back fiasco isn’t a good look but I don’t think the transition from this season to last season is as straightforward as some people make it out. That is partly Warne’s fault as he tried to change our system but I didn’t see many people on here this summer disagreeing with him switching to the back five/signing Sonny Bradley - it you were one of the five or so posters on here doing that, don’t quote this letting me know; I don’t give a toss
However, I think there is now a legitimate argument as to whether he sees out the season as I don’t think we’ve improved as quickly as anyone would like after that slow start. I would have said he has until the end of the season a month back so I’ve now sped that up to an assessment at Xmas
I’m personally disappointed with how quickly the fans have turned on Warne. Warne certainly deserves until Xmas to try to turn this around but the fans may drive him out; I don’t think that’s the sign of a healthy club, that decision should lie with Clowes and he shouldn’t be pressured into creating more turbulence at an already very turbulent club to satisfy the mob.
I will always be anti-booing the team/manager, our role at games should be as supporters and I think booing/chanting at Warne is more akin to acting like a customer.
And when people’s complaint is the football isn’t entertaining enough, you are definitely a customer rather than a supporter.
I don’t buy into this idea that we need to see entertaining football but what we do need is effective football.
My concern with Warne is I don’t think he knows how to get this team scoring 2+ goals per game regularly - as far as I’m concerned, the football can be as ugly as a sunburnt Susan Boyle as long as we’re scoring goals and winning games.
It’s hilarious and couldn’t happen to a more deserving man/club. But let’s not bury the fact they were absolutely shocking over those two legs. Full house at the riverside completely silent with them not having a shot in anger all game.
Amazing job by Coventry who are absolutely limited as a team but far more desire.
Dennis was a good man by and a too lad - A true gentleman and the communities he lived in lived him - he looked out for anyone and everyone and nothing was too much if he could help people out. Not everyone saw this side of him and many focused on his notoriety in other aspects. A genuine lovable rogue, I considered him my friend and he will be dearly missed by so many people who’s life he touched.
Rest in peace big man ??
Far too many for this site where glorifying football violence would be frowned upon, Yes a much loved fella who was at the head of the dark arts of football.
Operation Phileas Fogg in full swing, we are here on Merseyside, spent the afternoon in the Cavern club (well you have to) Checked in the Crown Plaza for two days, given a nice upgrade to an ocean suite, back out on the town in a while.
Sorry keep thinking of things - what the heck was the mass cramp sit down thing?
"That's just embarrassing" summed it up nicely.
Guess it shows how much I love our annoying frustrating Derby that I irrationally end up really hating every team we play
