Ramifications

When Rosenior took over Hull City, they were 15th in the table. Currently they are 6th. 
We are 11th. Think I am correct in stating we were 7th when Warne took over? So Hull have gotten better under Rosenior, whilst we have gotten worse under Warne. 

When Rosenior took over Hull City, they were 15th in the table. Currently they are 6th. 
We are 11th. Think I am correct in stating we were 7th when Warne took over? So Hull have gotten better under Rosenior, whilst we have gotten worse under Warne. 

When Rosenior took over Hull City, they were 15th in the table. Currently they are 6th. 
We are 11th. Think I am correct in stating we were 7th when Warne took over? So Hull have gotten better under Rosenior, whilst we have gotten worse under Warne. 

Just look up the ppg before and after february, theres a significant drop off. 
To say warne would've signed a player remotely close to matching what McGoldrick did for us is just delusional.
As for warnes v roseniors recruitment, they are polar opposites. Rosenior was signing players with technical ability, premier league experience, promising young players. Warne has so far (despite having less transfer restictions) signed lower end championship/league one players with very little technical ability. Playing a good style of football helps to attract players. I mean who wants to come and play a bit of head tennis and run round like a headless chicken for 90mins every week?
Given the current state of this division, we should be getting top 2, not just aiming for the play offs again. It's wide open this year with no stand out teams, even the relegated championship ones have points deductions. This is a huge oppurtunity this year and giving warne another season to see if he can improve seems like a waste. 

We regressed in the simple fact that we started winning less games. That doesn't happen without a reason. To put it down to bad luck is just a cop out to me.
You can't just say "he would have signed another player", like McGoldrick was any old player. He was a one-off. Don't pretend any other player could have done what he did easily.
I'm on about the calibre of player. Hourihane, McGoldrick, NML, all have Prem experience. The majority of our transfers this season are from L1 or lower Champ teams they couldn't get into. Warne obviously doesn't have as good connections as Rooney or Rosenior, and I'll bet a lot of players didn't want to sign for us based on the style of play as well. Ok, yes, lets wait and see how Warne's signings get on, but there must be a reason these players were allowed to leave these lower Champ/L1 clubs.
You're not considering how long it would take to reverse what Warne is doing to the squad if we did change him in the summer. If he's staying 100+ games, this brutish style will be so engrained, it may take another season or two to change again. Will you be on here again saying we need to give that new manager 2 more transfer windows as well? how long will it go on?
We might not get another chance like this season. The teams are comparatively weak compared to recent L1 seasons, especially with Wigan and Reading getting points deductions.
Of course this season could be a right-off. Ipswich and Plymouth got 98 and 101 points. Ipswich only lost 4 games all season.
We've already lost 3. We shouldn't be settling for the play-offs

Wasn't McGoldrick injured for a lot of games at the start of the season? I ssem to recall us dominating play but Collins having an inability to find the net. 
I thought it was a mistake to get rid of Rosenior at the time, our current league position and performances only seem to confirm that indeed it was. 

I was surprised that LR didn’t get a little more time. Felt that the players were happy and in his last game (was it Wycombe) they showed they he had their full support.
Big loss really, not just in results but in style of play. A lot of our fans have grown up watching an attractive style of football that is easy on the eye. Many of us will not put up with this PW anti football for very long…
 

Trying to patient but it’s difficult 
I know we have had our keeper sent off but regardless in the third division we should be able to actually play some football or at least try to but we have a manager who doesn't want the football but can only bang on about crossing the ball ( to opposition centre half’s) 
we have recruited totally to play a system the players can’t play with any credit and you can’t convince me that they want to actually play that way. 
Not that it matters now but about 4 weeks ago I heard that Warne was desperate to sell Cashin and Bird for £2 million to replace them with more dross (by dross I mean more people who can’t play football) 
without Waghorn turning up for Forsyth testermonial we would be bottom six or even bottom three.
sorry for moaning but I like to see football played with a view to entertain me - I have given Warne a full year and I only see us getting worse on the pitch with a collection of players of poor ability and whilst we still have some good players I don’t get the impression that they like what we are being asked to do.

Give him until Christmas and reassess. Have another poll then. 
At the moment, it isn't an enjoyable watch though. 
I could never forgive him if we finish lower than seventh. 

I'm wondering whether or not things have moved on and Warne's brand of 3 at the back has been left behind? I can remember Wimbledon's assault on the top division worked because the teams didn't know what had hit them, and couldn't cope with it. But it doesn't work now, as successfully proven by Billy Davis when he took the Rams up there.
I expected League 1 football would be a crude collection of hoof and thug, with a basket load of time wasting going on. There are some remnants, especially the time wasting last season, but the standard of football by some of the better clubs is a lot higher than I thought it would have been. Could it be that Warne's version of "Ping it to the wings then whack it into the box" has had it's day, having worked in the past?

Thanks for reminding us of that. I feel better already. 

We're not three games in though. We are nearly 12 months in to Warne and we've been getting steadily worse since last winter. We finished last season poorly and we've started this one in even worse shape. It's not an isolated three match blip.

I haven't commented on the match yet, it's so easy to sit back after a good win and think "job done" but that wasn't how I was feeling for a large part of the game. 
After a bright start, the early goal should have suited us as it brought Burton out of their shell and into attack mode. I thought we didn't deal with it too well. We dropped in quite deep and some of our play at the back was very nervy in that first half. 
Second half we started to see the gaps appear that gave us some space to play into, but even then there was a lot of hoofing the ball forwards from our defence without any real intent of finding a forward. Watching Hourihane and Bird trying to win headers in midfield is not my idea of fun!
Thankfully, those two players had the nouse to keep trying to play their football and Burton were tiring rapidly. It didn't help that when we did break free, most of our chances fell to Nathaniel Mendez-Laing, who appeared to have left his finishing boots at home (decent saves from the goalkeeper too). 
The relief when the second goal went in was palpable both on and off the pitch! The fans relaxed, the players relaxed and we started to play some very attractive football., which rewarded us with that third goal. 
I hope the players and fans take some confidence from yesterday's game. It wasn't as good as the score suggests, just as the Wigan game wasn't as bad as the play. (The less said about the Blackpool game the better!)
Confidence is such a fragile thing. Players new to the Club who must desperately want to impress trying a bit too hard; current players who have been playing a different style for much of their footballing lives; fans who want us to win, yes, but who also like to see decent football. 
I'm now looking forward to the Oxford game to see whether yesterday was a turning point, or whether we will have to be patient a while longer for it all to gel together.
Same starting team for me, please. Put as much effort in as Collins did yesterday and we'll be right!
 

Agree with the majority, but if the intention is to play a "high tempo pressing game" then Thompson should start in place of either Smith or Hourihane. With our limited midfield options, for me Smith or Hourihane (I'd choose Smith) should play a holding role, and Bird & Thompson should provide the energy.

What an utter shambles that first half was tonight. I don't think it was so much lack of effort that did for us, but the system. 
Someone commented that Blackpool also play three at the back and made it look easy, but actually they had a five man defensive unit across the pitch and a solid midfield in front of them.
This isn't helped by our painfully slow build up play. It takes us an age to play out from the back because neither Nelson nor Bradley are comfortable on the ball. So the Blackpool defence was set, and coped easily with our balls in to two attackers who don't look match-fit.
Blackpool in contrast just got the ball forward quickly and because we were only playing three at the back -at best - often two as Nelson and Cashin are being encouraged to play forwards - we were caught flat-footed on numerous occasions and there could have been a few more goals against us than there were. 
Wilson plays so far forward that he might as well be a winger. Except Mendez-Laing is a much better winger, if we want someone to play that high. (I know he's injured tonight, but just making that general point.) 
Why was Hourihane on the left wing getting in Elder's way? The whole set-up was bizarre.
Second half we could have made more subs but Tommo and Fozzy made a big difference. Tommo because he moved about looking for the ball and played it quickly. Bird came to life with him at the side of him. Fozzy because he is far more assured in defence, Cashin immediately relaxed and he too had a better second half. Ward was much better than Wilson, not least because he can defend a bit, too! 
I could put up with slow centrebacks if they were doing their jobs but they aren't at the moment. And they aren't much of a threat from set pieces either, I don't think we got a head on any of those first half. Fozzy is also pretty slow, but his positioning and reading of the game is just so superior to Bradley's so far that his lack of pace isn't the same issue.
I would have liked to see Collins and Brown on at half time too, as Wash and Waggy were tiring and not able to take advantage of our increased momentum in the early part of the second half. As it was, we huffed and puffed but didn't create a lot. At least we looked more solid at the back. 
I didn't enjoy Warne's post match interview on Radio Derby. If he wants to throw players under the bus, then he'll need to take responsibility for finding some better ones. Even if we don't know for certain who they are, the players will and that might be the final push they need to decide to walk away. On his track record so far, I'm not sure what sort of quality we're going to get in to replace them. 
Disappointed. 

"Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick:
A yellow card will be issued if the offence was an attempt to play the ball or a challenge for the ball.
A red card will be shown in all other circumstances (e.g., holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball)
The additional wording means that whilst cynical non-footballing actions such as clear holding, pushing and handball offences will continue to be sanctioned with a penalty and red card, where there is an attempt to play the ball or challenge for the ball a penalty and yellow card is the expected outcome."
Now.....
If this was the case last year, Curtis Davies would not have been sent off in our final game against, Sheffield Wednesday, we would have made the play offs and been promoted. 

Collins missing chances cost him his job

Third division footballers. World's on it arse.

Good luck to them.
My step-daughter will qualify as a junior doctor this year. She currently earns more per shift as a hospital cleaner than she will as a doctor in her first year.
The world is on it's arse.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/61347212

No it is not 
Plenty of nice plenty places in the uk

And we thank you for saving our beloved football club David Clowes. You are a gentleman.

Yes and look what had just happened last time also. Coincidence? From DET article re the rise under Cox:
"May 1984, and the club was in deep trouble having slumped to one of the lowest points in its history. Relegation meant the Rams faced their centenary season in the third tier only nine years after being champions of England and just a matter of months after the club’s dire financial position had reached crisis point when a winding-up order at the High Court was avoided at the 11th hour. The road to recovery appeared a long and daunting one."
 

The problem with judging these players is apart from cashin the other 2 don’t play in there positions knight box to box midfielder sibley a number 10