Kathcairns

The more I hear from the administrators the more I fear all isn't as it seems and all isn't going to be as rosey as they are trying to suggest.
I overhead someone at the gym, a father of an ex Derby player saying Derby are in a much bigger mess than the administrators are letting on.
I really hope he is wrong and I am wrong.

Or the administrators could maybe say you won the amortisation case because Derby didn't have an accountant expert to defend it. We are accountants so you try it again and see how far it gets you.

I wonder if the administrators will try and strike a deal based on saying the following, at least as a starting point:
"Give us zero or very few points for the P&S loss and in return, we won't appeal the administration under the force majeure for Covid"
I'm sure the EFL wouldn't fancy us being the benchmark case for Covid otherwise, if they lost it, they would be in a lot of trouble.

Exactly. If Lawrence had killed someone when he went off the road he would have gone to jail and lost his job. He would have suffered for the consequence sof his actions.  Keogh injured himself so suffered the consequences of his actions.. he cannot expect Derby to compensate him for that... although according to Percy he has been.

It’s a faff, we paid for a season ticket, not a seasons worth of printing tickets from home. 
why can’t they just re register the old cards?

Only if you have a smart phone or access to a printer which has been discussed at length a lot of the older generation don’t necessarily have. No idea how much it costs to programme a season card but presumably the turnstiles have to be programmed for individual games anyway.

Newcastle and Sunderland have that part of the country pretty much to themselves, which I think helps to explain their continuing strong levels of support. 

It’s all an act though.

Yeah, they also have an extremely negative view of everything connected with club. 
Anyone who saw Bielik play last season and still thinks we overpaid for him is having a laugh.
Whether we should have spent that kind of money is a different issue.

Are you sure you're not talking about Keogh?
No class and pure ruthlessness would have been sacking them all (which would be 5 players, not just the main 3), not trying to find a solution to suit the circumstances. Offering someone a reduced wage, free rehabilitation and a chance to make amends to the club, the fans, their teammates etc isn't being classless and ruthless.
No class and ruthlessness is taking an offer (one which in reality was more generous than anyone should expect given their actions) -  playing the martyr about how you feel pressured into accepting it, laughingly complaining that it "didn't feel like a negotiation" (it bloody well shouldn't have been you entitled berk!)  - rejecting it and effectively suing the person who put it in front of you because you see an opportunity to make some money.
No class and ruthlessness is taking that money whilst the club you profess to love is in administration and people on a normal wage (still less than you would have been offered) are losing their jobs.
No class and ruthlessness is never accepting any culpability for your actions, never apologising to anyone.
Some call Rowett The Snake, but Keogh & his agent are lower than a snake's belly.

Eh? Are people forgetting that Keogh got himself injured? So they didn't 'all do the same' - Keogh made himself useless to DCFC. The others did a very silly thing but were still capable of playing. 
With regard to Mutu - yes, Chelsea successfully sued him for the £15m.
 

I’d say that being treated equally doesn’t mean equal outcomes. Players who were able to fulfil their contractual obligations and play were kept on. Players who were not able to fulfil their contractual obligations through no fault of the club were offered reduced terms but ultimately let go. Dressing up as gross misconduct muddies the water, but as this was only tested in a pretend EFL court, not a proper industrial tribunal, we still don’t know if it was a reasonable position for the club (and Mel) to take. 
 
Personally, I think he’s got his money and his beef is more with Mel than DCFC, so it’d be better if he went away rather than trying to stir up a national press pity party with his compo face and £2m in the week that twenty normal people got made redundant. 

They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
 
 
 

For Richard Keogh , the EFL, Mel Morris , Steve Gibson , Wycombe Wanderers , Simon Jordan the message is simple Just Duck off the lot of you

Is he being sarcastic? An enormous honour? An enormous pain in the backside more like 

A mystery British interest you say..... ?

 

Saint Richard does not discriminate based upon looks!
 

Jesus H Christ!  What is it with folk still trying to defend him, like he is some kind of saint!
It was one drowning puppy, for crying out loud!  JUST ONE!
... And a mongrel at that!  Not even a cute one!   Jeez!

Looks like they were in hospitality - all extra money into the club.

I see him at a fair few games (usually not dressed like that) not going to say which seats as I think he deserves to enjoy the game as much as we all do. 

I'd give Gordon Taylor a bell mate. You'll be a multimillionaire within a couple of months. 
Ole Gordon wouldn't let small issues of morality, general good, or egregious greed get in the way of helping out a player of the beautiful game.... ?

Wish we could say the same about keogh.

Ever the gentleman, I kind of get the feeling that resentment and bitterness don't figure on Phil's list of useful emotions.
The man will probably live to be 100. 

I'm onboard with anyone who puts up the cash bud. The club needs saving.

Exactly. An indpendent employment tribunal would have assessed the case on the basis of whether dismissal was within the range of appropriate punishments for someone who is a professional footballer and club captain to get drunk, get into a car (and allegedly not wearing a seat belt?)with another drunk person driving and then  get yourself injured and unable to perform your employed duties for over a year. 
I am in no doubt what an indpendent tribunal would have decided.  The fact that Lawrence and Bennett escaped the punishment of dismissal (possibly for commercial reasons) is irrelevant, the club was within its rights to terminate any or all of their contracts.