Dean (hick) Saunders

2 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

A decent manager would get more out of the squad we had…

Don’t disagree, but that’s the past.

If we can’t give “the manager*” some backing for next season then it won’t matter much who it is.

*Rooney/Rafa/Steve Gritt & Alan Curbishley duo.

Neither knew championship.

If we had employed a know championship type manager (Colin Warnock for example) instead of either of them I would expect us to be higher up the league than we are now.

For sure the forum would have been very polarised on it as the “same old names” candidates generally have lower appeal on here than the “something different, bit of a gamble” candidate.

We are where we are though, i am just hoping we can pick up enough quality in the bargain free transfer bin that it even makes a difference who the manager is. Way things are going at the moment the manager is barely relevant as even the best candidate we could think of can’t make a cake out of a pile of ?.

31 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Yes, we should just settle quietly for staying in the Championship. 

(And seeing the occasional glimpse of good footy)

Just now, irobinson said:

Yeah but Leeds and Villa got up With a proper strategy 

 

where were we with MM?

 

established prem teams now  

 

 

 

 

 

I think villa strategy was the Derby strategy but without vainest attempt to stay cool on FFP. Absolute ? or bust.

If we had blown more cash on another couple of centre forwards that would have been the villa style strategy.

How many times are EFL (and us) allowed to appeal? Can EFL keep going until the end of time (or we get a 4000 point penalty for the 2038/39 season).

Did we start using the “new” amortisation before the stadium sale occurred?

Go ahead sue. I’ll send the boys round to bust a cap in your bottoms.

Defence looks a bit ropey… ?

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I think lack of access to quality players is worrying more than who manager is right now. This is more important issue.

Does anybody be it Stevie Mac or Stevie Nics even know what the hell is going on.

Feels like the club is like a leaf blowing round in a strong wind. God only knows what’s happening or going to happen.

We could do a reality tv show where we give X factor style process to get new manager with cameras following everything around.

May as well go the full circus...

(l’ll get my coat)

I think we (supporters) have more right to consider quitting than Rooney.

Football is our hobby/culture/thing we expect to give us pleasure (some times). If there is no apparent prospect of enjoyment in the near term then why would we masochistically put our self through loads of pain when there could be other things to do?

I expect some people to tell me I live/bleed Derby and would go even if someone hit me with a bat every time I went. Fair play to you in this case.

For me I will need to have some reason to be optimistic to get me to go. I would not go to the cinema if there was only a piece of ?film on.

12 minutes ago, Spanish said:

We were found guilty on one charge by the ‘first panel’ the findings were challenged.  
the club has been found guilty and have accepted that they were not clear on the basis of their methodology.

the 18th is about the restated accounts not about the guilty verdict

the appeal is to the LAP and their decision cannot be appealed 

apart from that you are spot on

The LAP can only be looking at the significance of the accounting irregularity though (not the impact on P&S balance) so a points penalty for that on its own would not seem proportional?

If a big points penalty was assigned for minor (which I think is safe to assume it is based on prior rulings) accounting deviation then it would set a big precedent for other things in the future I would have thought. IE If every time a small accounting problem was found in any other clubs accounts they got points would everyone think that is correct.

5 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Well, if the points deduction was 20/21 and we were relegated then we would start League One on zero points. You wouldn't get relegated and then get a point deduction. 

Either way, I'm really not sure what the worst situation is - a season in the Championship in which we're horribly unprepared to partake which would no doubt lead to some really quite distasteful scenes and a lot of the young lads getting hammered by the fans. Ending in almost unavoidable relegation. 

OR

A relegation to League One where we are still disgustingly unprepared but with more of a chance of some of our U23s and U18s stepping up to fill gaps. I doubt we would be in the race for promotion but we should be able to keep our League One status. I guess whether we could survive League One financially, with the debts piling up, is another question. 

Both are absolutely horrific, but that's where we are - Mel Morris has to go down in our history as one of the worst owners this club has ever had despite his good intentions. The bloody 3 Amigos didn't even put us in a mess this big! 

Caught between a rock and another rock covered in ?.

One would expect that if the EFL were going to appeal that (unlike the usual glacial pace at which they work) they must do it quite quickly if they want to get the penalty increased. 

1 hour ago, DerbyRam! said:

There was no Wazza bounce. It was the Bielik factor.

Remove Bielik from Rooney's time in charge and we would be certainly playing league 1 football next season. 

No doubt Cocu wasn't great, but we certainly didn't progress under Rooney, we've just gone backwards and have been saved relegation by one man.

Don’t think we have gone backwards. Arguably either stayed the same or small forward step.

I just want to go to the real games. Don’t much care for RamsTV. Not seen hardly any games this year.

If you see several games per month for £25 that does not seem too bad. If it were just one it would be a little pricy considering the football may well be a stinking pile of ????.

Rumour has it….

…. goes a song by Adele..

To old to panic about football at age 47. What ever happens happens.

Main problem for me if things don’t get sorted is the football will be a stinking pile of ? so I won’t want to watch it and have to find something else to do.

The fact he could not get in two of the worst four teams in the league is quite telling. 

I am voting mid table based on assumption we will recruit players of that standard between now and end of august.

The big deal made about the start of the asparagus season by foodies. It is just a rather ordinary tasting bean that seems much more inefficient to grow than a normal bean for which you get loads off a single bush not a single stick.

If it just looked like a normal bean but grew as a stick it would be ignored.