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If Clowes put Warne into a contract he couldn’t afford to pay off under the terms of any business plan if it went tits up, then he’s a bigger moron than any of us think he is for just not sacking him. 

What we achieved was a win and progression in the competition. Individual progress for junior players  is a secondary consideration, But hey hoe lets knock Warne. Had we converted more of the early chances created it would have been different

Which excludes them from the rest of the season then ! 

ever thought about trying to get behind the manager whoever it is 

Ridiculous!
Results drive attendances, are we doing badly in 8th? Some griping fans on a forum will not affect Clowes, How does the loss, should it happen, of some fans compare to the cost of compensation payments if sackings happen? Get back to the real world.

Ridiculous!
Results drive attendances, are we doing badly in 8th? Some griping fans on a forum will not affect Clowes, How does the loss, should it happen, of some fans compare to the cost of compensation payments if sackings happen? Get back to the real world.

Ridiculous!
Results drive attendances, are we doing badly in 8th? Some griping fans on a forum will not affect Clowes, How does the loss, should it happen, of some fans compare to the cost of compensation payments if sackings happen? Get back to the real world.

How do you know he isn't?
Lack of a consistent starting XI, thanks to injuries, means this team haven't had chance to build form yet- I reckon that's why we've looked disjointed at times; but also why the play is improving as they start to gel. If, by your own words, we're scoring from passing moves, why would the manager not encourage a style that makes us successful?
Execution is not down to the manager...

Excellent post @Brailsford Ram and I echo a lot of what you say.  You’ve posted some stats about previous promotion seasons and I’ve thought about exactly that.  In my time supporting The Rams we’ve always started slowly when we’ve had a successful season.
As you’ve pointed out, Jim Smith and Billy Davies started slow.  There were even calls for Jim to be sacked, Billy had a bit more grace, probably because we’d just come out of the Three Amigos period.  Arthur had already had a full season before he got us up, which I’m sure wouldn’t happen now.
I get some fans concern about the academy, but that was decimated due to administration.  At the recent forum, Stephen Pearce talked about it being at least 3 years before the academy was producing players.  We’ve just put a new structure in place, let them do their job and I’m sure they’re keeping Warne informed.
We’re 7th, with a game in hand and just under 1/4 of the season gone.  Players now coming back, getting a bit more like a settled starting 11 and, in my opinion, improved performances since Lincoln in the pizza cup.  My glass is definitely half full.

4 wins from 5 away games!!! (And we know what happened on the other one)

Thought i would bump this.

4 wins from 5 away games!!! (And we know what happened on the other one)

4 wins from 5 away games!!! (And we know what happened on the other one)

4 wins from 5 away games!!! (And we know what happened on the other one)

4 wins from 5 away games!!! (And we know what happened on the other one)

Somewhat contradictory! Claiming  Clough was sacked when the team were flourishing yet providing the dire attendances at that time. He had 4 years and we were going nowhere , with little entertainment. Warne has had 12 months and massive restrictions on signings, with no Barker type fees. His football is no better but he deserves more time
 

I wasn’t bored in the first half. I thought it was quite entertaining, just frustrating that we couldn’t create enough good chances or convert the few that we did.

He will have done so with massive budgetary and EFL restrictions on signings which neither Mac or Lampard had to work with

After watching Paul Warnes Cambridge interview regarding the Josh Vicars situation, I can't help but feel we have it wrong about what we value in a manager. 
I understand football is about results and success, but sometimes, seeing a managers humility and connection as a humanbeing with the players, especially at times of trauma, beats the lot for me.
I've been critical of Warne, as have a lot of us, but I would love nothing more than for Warne to get us promoted. I know his "let's be mates" mentality can be a bit cringe, and his 352 does your head in, but you can tell he really cares about those around him, and I would much rather be in the trenches with a man like Warne than someone coming here for a quick cheque. 
I'm crossing everything that things go right on the pitch, but regardless of that, I just wanna commend him for the person he is.
 
Salute to you Mr Warne.
🫶
 
 

There are a number of contributors to these pages, genuine fans all I’m pretty sure, whose informed and interesting views I have enjoyed reading over the years but whose opinion of our manager is consistently less than positive, couched always in terms of ‘I want him and the team to do well, but….’  The latest ‘but’ appears to be his use (or non-use) of academy players.
Are we really all so cynical nowadays that we don’t believe what we’re being told in interviews or have we just stopped listening?
Warne has explained how much benefit he will get as manager from an academy player breaking through into the first team.  It’s in his interest for that to happen as it stretches his budget and allows him to spend more elsewhere.  Even if you (mistakenly imo) believe that he’s not ‘interested’ in young players, surely you can understand that he might be keen to extend his financial reach and recruit more widely?
He’s explained - and we have the photos to prove it happens - that players from the academy join in first team training sessions so that he and his staff can look at them but also so that the players themselves get a taste of the requirements of being a first team member.  He’s explained that they have to perform, to make the most of their opportunity.  Hasn't football, at all levels, always been the same?  It’s dog eat dog.  You have to perform all the time, now more than ever. Those who work hard, and not necessarily the most talented, get to have careers.  Twas ever thus
Hasn’t he said that he has to be sure that a young player won’t be destroyed by the experience of playing in the first team?  In these somewhat softer times aren’t we all aware of the mental health of individuals in a very tough work place - David Clowes directly referred to it in relation to Rosenior, for example.  Warne has said that he has seen a player’s career destroyed by being thrown in at the deep end too soon; Will Hughes (for example) was introduced gently - played on the wing/played for a few minutes at the end of a game before he was allowed to play regularly.  I was there at Steve Powell’s full debut v Liverpool.  It wasn’t his actual debut if I recall correctly.  But Steve (like Tom Huddleston) was a freak of football nature - a 16 year old in a man’s body, steeped in football from his father and with the mental strength to go with it.  There’s a reason that boys very rarely play men’s professional football. Shouldn’t we be glad that a senior member of our management team has the long term career prospects of our youngest players at heart rather than short term gain?  If you were a parent of someone coming through wouldn’t you want your son (or daughter) to be looked after?  We’re a tough crowd in a tough business and I don’t want a player destroyed by a poor performance in front of a Pride Park crowd. I want a manager to play someone when he thinks that player is ready, not before, and if he errs on the side of caution then good. Better that than destroying a career.
And what experience do our current academy players have to bring?  It’s not a winning experience, that’s for sure.  And lest anyone thinks I’m criticising, I’m not.  The academy was pillaged to help us have a club to support.  16/17/18 year olds couldn’t cope with under 21 football last season and they’re struggling again this season despite additions, so how are they going to cope with League 1 football? But Warne has described the regular meetings he and his staff have with those in charge of the academy (and recruitment) where they discuss who is ready for the opportunity, initially to train with the first team and then to show what they can do.  Shouldn’t we applaud that approach?
By all means criticise Warne for team selection or substitutions or formations or whatever if you want to but let’s not manufacture a lack of interest in young players coming through our academy as (yet) another stick to beat him with

Popped on for a reminder of the doom and gloom after three points away from home. You haven’t failed me. 
Thanks 

Is there nothing Rams fans won't moan about.
A win today so we have 3 pages moaning about a commentator that wasn't actually commentating. 
Coming up with new and inventive things to criticise should be considered our specialist subject.

Hmmmm.... a mixed bag again today. Happy with the 3 points and clean sheet. 
I think we need bodies back in midfield which is where we struggle... Embleton now injured again, Tommo out, Bird out, Hourihane out. Both Sibley and NML had poor games for me today and also Waggy struggled to get into the game. So i thought midfield is where we weren't quite right again. But as the saying goes "success breeds success" .. .so hopefully our season will kick on.... but as I said I feel we need more from a depleted midfield.
I've got to say that whilst I agree we're not playing brilliantly I don't get all the negativity on this board...
 

Clinging on from 25 minutes against one of the weakest teams in the division. It’s honestly been utter dross and I’m jealous of anyone who hasn’t wasted their Saturday afternoon watching it. Horse s***. 

It's just a matter of time before they score. Our clown of a manager is a tactical genius.