EulogyForEvolution

1 minute ago, ariotofmyown said:

We need to conceed twice and Bolton need 3 for us not to go up. Shall we start the party?

Don't say it 😬😂

13 minutes ago, S6 boy said:

It's the centre back combo for me.

Me too. I've voted Nelson and Cash for pure consistency in an ever-changing back line. They've been colossal.

14 hours ago, HorsforthRam said:

NML has a hamstring injury. barks is out for 3 weeks. Can Warne either adapt his system or use a different one to keep us in the hunt?

Looking at who we have available, we might have to go for something like this next game:

            Wildsmith
Smith Nelson Cashin Elder
      Adams  Thompson
Ward      Sibley      Wilson
          Washington

We don't have the attacking players available to afford having Ward, Sibley or Wilson in the fullback positions. I'm still not sure CBT is ready for a start - he showed glimpses yesterday when he game on, though.

To put our injury crisis into perspective, here's a alternate eleven with players that are injured or suspended:

                     Vickers
Nyambe  Bradley  Rooney  Forsyth
                Fornah   Bird
NML                                Barkhuizen
              Gayle    Collins

I think any team would struggle with so many players out.

Shocking game. Utterly s***. 

And f*** Sonny Bradley. I want him out of the club.

1 minute ago, Srg said:

The difference Gayle made is ridiculous. 

Yeah, Waggy just doesn't lead the line.

It's ridiculous if the EFL are holding this up. 

They have no right to be hand holding us now. We have a new owner, we took our punishment in the form of a 21 point deduction, relegation and narrowly avoiding liquidation.

Were QPR restricted when they returned to the Championship after breaking FFP to get promoted (over us)? How about Everton, Forest or Man City by the Premier League?

It feels like there are special rules that apply to us that no one else has to abide by.

Don't want him back on loan. Would much rather give our own players more game time. 

I'd understand him forcing a move to a big club...but Bristol City? It's insulting, frankly.

I really hope this happens. This is what I called for in the midfield thread a few days ago. 

We have good attacking options but they aren't free to get forward and do their thing because no one is doing the nasty stuff to allow them to stop looking over their shoulders.

Love the idea of:

Adams (DM)

Thompson/Fornah (box to box engine)

Bird/Hourihane/Sibley (number 10 or attacking mid)

I've just got a feeling someone like Adams, in the mold of Eustace, will help knit it all together and we'll start seeing the benefits of our talented squad.

I think the problem with our midfield is that the players we have don't have clearly defined roles that they are there to carry out. 

Think about some of our best midfields in recent times, for example Eustace/Bryson/Hughes. Eustace would sit in the front of the back four, mop up and play simple passes. Bryson was the engine who would also be making late runs into the box and linking with the wingers. Hughes would play between the lines and look to spray passes around.

They worked together as a unit. You see the same with all the best sides, whether they play a two or a three.

What do we have now? Bird who sometimes sits back and sometimes plays almost as a 10. Hourihane who plays deeper than he used to because he doesn't have the legs to play his old role. Thommo, Fornah and Smith who play different roles every time they come on the pitch, mainly from the bench. 

I'd go as far to say that none of them suit the CDM role naturally and all of them are asked to play there.

I'd like to see us bring in a player who can sit in front of the back four and turn over the ball. Then see Fornah or Thommo play as the midfield engine driving the ball on, and Bird or Hourihane playing between the lines. 

It's all square pegs and round holes at the moment.

That was the most f****** Derby County half of football I've ever seen.

Solid performance. Much improved. More of the same please 👍

Total dogshit. This squad is too good to be regularly turning in performances like that.

2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

But they won't pay it and then what happens with the player? Brighton no doubt buy players in the same way Mike Ashley buys companies?

You're right of course, I was just kidding. 

I would love to see us properly extort a club for a player one day, though. 

This might have already been said, but if it's Brighton f****** bleed them. 

Most players they buy for £3 million they sell for £50 million plus 😂

£15 million + 30% sell on clause or he stays. If that means he stays, then good.

                  Vickers

Wilson Forsyth Cashin Elder

                 Rooney

   Thompson       Hournihane

NML                                 Waghorn

              Washington

Back to basics. Ask Rooney to turn the ball over and offload it to the full backs or wingers. Ask Wilson and Elder to overlap NML and Waggy.

"Maybe if Wash would have swivelled his hips a bit quicker"

Unbelievable. What a weasel.

Atrocious.

There is no other word for it.

Maybe Nelson has had his head turned as well.

And Elder when we played Blackpool. Or Bradley against Wigan.

Or it could be Max Bird's fault 🤷🏼‍♂️

Playing unattractive football and getting results is one thing.

Playing an unattractive system and not being able to fashion a chance from open play against Oxford at home is quite another.

NML comes to life when he's on the right and looks a bit lost otherwise. Any player running the channels soon finds themselves totally isolated and essentially only trying to win a corner.

A midfield of Smith, Bird and Hourihane is strong for this league but that's no good if they don't receive the ball to feet.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see this clicking. We may not have the players for it.

5 hours ago, TINMANTED said:

Waghorns heart obviously isn't in this,so not going to be fully committed. A waste of a wage in my opinion we already have one slow useless striker,why waste what limited resources we have on another.warne is going totally against what he said,he said we needed ,he said we needed a younger pacey goal scorer and we get another ageing slug,rapidly getting tired of listening to Warnes waffle

Yeah, the dude who almost decapitated himself to score a goal to keep us up...I'm sure he'll lack heart and commitment.

Sometimes I wonder what it's like to support a normal football club.

I'd welcome him back. He would suit a Warne team down to the ground.

He works hard and will likely bag a few goals in this league. 

He also clearly loves the club and is a good fit personality-wise.

Sign him up 👍

3 hours ago, IlsonDerby said:

Mandala effect that. I could have sworn it was against Newcastle 😂 

I seem to remember Shaun Barker scoring with a lovely shot from a corner in that one. Might be wrong though.

5 minutes ago, ramsbottom said:

TBH I’d gladly take a punt on Wisdom considering our RB options.  He’d be really steady in this league.  

I'd agree, but I guess it depends on how fit he's kept himself, because he's been out of the game for a while.

I'd also look at Wickham. He might not be exactly what we're looking for but he's match fit and was scoring goals in a very poor Forest Green Rovers side. If he's happy to compete for a starting place and his attitude is right, I'd love to see him here for the rest of the season.

To be honest, I would hope that if Bielik is called back to help us get promoted he doesn't feel like Derby County is a "prison".

We paid a lot of money for him. And he's on an awful lot of money. He was on an awful lot of money sat on our recovery table, pretty much since he signed. 

I get sick of the narrative these days that a player is "held hostage" by their club.

We all work in different sectors and we sign up to work for certain terms and conditions. 

The fortunes of the organisation I work for go up and down like a rollercoaster, and I don't work for them any less when we're at a low ebb.

And my terms are nowhere near as generous as his, by the way.

This isn't meant as a criticism of him, because he hasn't complained publicly. But I would hope that he'd be happy to come back and help take us up.