jono

Eh? This is what you posted:-
"Fair expectation of any club signing a potential goalscorer is that they either score - or at least make - goals. Washington isn't that - either for Derby or elsewhere."
I pointed out that he has scored, assisted in goals and created chances quite regularly while he's been on the pitch - what are you taking issue with?

I think Sibs has developed tremendously over the last half of this season. 

I saw on Barkhuizen’s instagram story his wife posted something about the celebrations continuing and that she’s proud of him…new deal? 

As I posted elsewhere, his contributions per minute played (goals + assists) are higher than Mendez-Laing, so to say he hasn't contributed is factually nonsense. As recently as Wycombe away, he set up two massive chances for NML and CBT and it wasn't really his fault that they weren't converted.
That said, he won't be good enough for Championship level and moving him on would be best all round, but please don't try to tell me he hasn't contributed.

I'd be concerned if we were looking to start him as our main striker next year, but I think folks are being a bit harsh on him. Did well for us, IMO.

Good luck with the play-offs @BWFCNick. The game at Pride Park was a massive pivotal moment in the race for the automatic places and personally I thought you were a bit  unlucky not to come away from that game with at least a share of the spoils.
Our keeper made two crucial saves, one of which was world class. We managed to be more clinical with our chance and that was the difference. 
Really hope you do it because like us and Pompey you've stared down the barrel of the abyss. After being in such a place your fanbase deserve a taste of the good times again. Once again, good luck, I'll be rooting for you. 🤞

I knew you wouldn’t leave a Roulstone unturned.

Walter Roulstone (1866–1953) was an English footballer who played for Derby County.[2]
William Roulstone was signed in 1886 by Sawley Rangers F.C. Very little is known about Sawley Rangers except they were founder members of the Derbyshire Football Association. Albert Williamson was only at Sawley Rangers for one season, 1886–87. Albert Williamson was on Derby County's books for the one season prior to the start of the Football League, 1887–88.[2][3][4]
Walter Roulstone made his League debut on 8 September 1888, playing at wing–half, at Pike's Lane, the then home of Bolton Wanderers. Derby County defeated the home team 6–3. Walter Roulstone appeared in 21 of the 22 League matches played by Derby County in season 1888–89. As a wing-half (20 appearances) he played in a midfield that achieved big (three–League–goals–or–more) wins on three separate occasions.[3]
He was the first player to make 100 league appearances with Derby County. His brother Frank was also a footballer. Although Derby County had had a poor season (1888–89), Roulstone was retained to play alongside the more experienced professionals being brought in during the close season in 1889. Roulstone stayed with Derby County for seven seasons leaving in 1894. He played 118 games becoming the First Derby County player to play 100 games for the club. He went to local non-league club Heanor Town in 1895.[5]

For the most part, the Trotters fans who have posted on here this season have been sound dudes. Our 'rivalry' goes back to the first ever league match day in 1888, when we played each other and you raced into a 3-0 lead before we pegged you back and eventually ran out 6-3 winners. I'm definitely rooting for Bolton in the playoffs.
Incidentally, my wife's great-great uncle played in that 3-6 game (Walter Raulstone).

I liked the retort to Chelsea fans when they sang "We pay your benefits" and South Stand retorted "We build your aeroplanes".
If that was an original, it was very funny! 

When the Heanor lads used to arrive on the Ossie end and shout “Eanor , Eanor” and the Popside would respond with “Sharples ,Sharples”  
You have to be over a certain age to get that 
 
 

Sung to the Birmingham fans, Que sera sera whatever will be will be, you’re going to Shrewsbury Que sera sera.

I am missing the stresses, highs and lows of a promotion chase. So to pass the time - what are the best ever chants?
I have a fondness for ‘Andy Comyn round the mountain when he comes’ started at Sunderland away (lashed it down after the game) and always liked the Phil Gee one - ‘Philip Gee, Philip Gee, Philip Gee, Philip Gee - scoring goals for Derby, Philip Gee’. Both totally unique which in the world of ubiquitous football chants is a rarity to be celebrated. 
 
3 months to go to the new season! 
 
🐏

Tyrèsee Campbell would be an interesting one, not had the greatest of seasons at Stoke after his injury,  but before looked quality,  A move away might do him good, quick and powerful 

Thing is with Fozzy is he has a football brain, is flexible enough to be LB, WB, CB and will perform whether it’s raining, a heat wave, Covid, He is boots on the ground that don’t leak. Oh yeah ..  he’s been there before and  if anyone is a RAM it’s Fozzy. I reckon he would be delighted to have another year and without an ego he’ll sit on a bench standing guard for the mighty Rams

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

I said on one of the other threads if you've got a squad with loans in from Liverpool and City and permanently signed Philogene amongst others from the Prem and they've got the lad Greaves everyone is supposedly after you need to be getting top 6. It was like us under Lampard, he had everything thrown at it financially to our detriment as we now know. Lampard jumped ship and he'd probably have got longer because of the infamous win against Leeds but with hindsight we should have got top 2 with the likes of Mount and Tomori on top of what was already a decent side (at the time). I feel a bit for Liam because he did ok with us and he did ok with Hull but his CV will show he's been let go twice in quickish succession which doesn't look great for a man starting out in management. 

I agree with all of that and yet we all know that there will be so many of our followers who will reinvigorate the “ Warne Out” campaign if we have a slow start. 
 
I shudder when I see comments suggesting that we should be aiming for the top next season, a la Ipswich. Realistically, what are the chances of that, irrespective of manager? If we can achieve a respectable mid table finish, I’ll take it now. I attended my first Rams game 60 years ago and have seen the great times and the awful times. That brings about a massive amount of realism. 
i know it’s old fashioned and probably boring, but I’m still grateful to Mr Clowes for having my Club to support. A week away from extinction recently and yet we’ve already managed promotion against so many odds. Ipswich didn’t have that kind of problem to deal with. I therefore set no unrealistic targets for the next season.
 
Unlike many owners, I suspect DC is blessed with a dose of realism too😄
 
 

All that tells us is that finishing 15th in 22-23 was slightly above where Hull ‘should have been’ in financial terms.
Where does finishing 7th line up with their spending in 23-24?

I think for most managers nowadays, they have to pick their jobs carefully. Maybe Rosenior signed a three-year deal in the winter as insurance more than anything?
The Championship was already a well known revolving door swallowing managers up and spitting them out. Then this ownership group came in, removed McCann almost instantly and then gave their own man Arveladze what amounted to slightly more than half a season, so maybe Rosenior understood he’d always be walking a tightrope?
I would agree that at the beginning of the season, most people would have had Leeds, Leicester and Southampton as the main contenders with a cluster of 6-7 other teams in the mix, with Hull as a dark horse in that group.
But as you alluded to, once you get into the top six and start rubbing shoulders with the big guns, the goalposts are only going to move one way…
Rosenior just has to play the game and pick his next job with more care. He doesn’t want to do what Rooney has done, for instance.

How is the 22/23 wage bill at all relevant to the squad that they've had this season? Typical Maguire.

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry. 
 

It’s interesting. Let’s contrast opinions, results, owners.
Fans get us out of league 1 asap 
Clowes : get promoted but this aim is not necessarily within one season. We want to endure 
Hull : gimme gimme gimme .. or else

How many of us were calling for Warne to be sacked because we didn’t make the play offs ? Yet how many of us are saying it’s harsh to sack Liam because he didn’t either ? 
Results .. a bit of patience and we made it, they have to start again. Foolish in my mind as, whatever the finishing position they had an incremental improvement. 
There are comments on this thread about itchy trigger fingers yet so many of us are just the same and will be again next season. For me, for at least the next 2 years, we don’t need to think about sacking a manager unless we are in danger of relegation and its force majeur . Building things takes time. Keep your powder dry.