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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to mozza in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    Man of the match.. 

    Well said, Sir..
     
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to StaffsRam in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    Beckett, Perkins and Daley were brilliant. Very proud of our local MPs, but also those from farther afield that supported them.
     
    One thing that is abundantly clear, the EFL as sole arbiters, are finished.
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    Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from EtoileSportiveDeDerby in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
    ………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
    Daly contribution at 14:44:31
     
    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to SamUltraRam in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    The Bury MP is at 34 minutes, brutal & brilliant, well said that man
    His words should be played on a loop
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to Ramarena in Rob Couhig on Sports Scene at 6   
    The “victims” are on a charm offensive. 
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    Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Ellafella in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
    ………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
    Daly contribution at 14:44:31
     
    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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    Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Zag zig in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
    ………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
    Daly contribution at 14:44:31
     
    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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    Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Black ('n' White) Sheep in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
    ………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
    Daly contribution at 14:44:31
     
    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to JoetheRam in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament   
    Always knew we were massive.
    We've got Covid and Immigration warming the crowd up for us.
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to Day in The Football Creditor rule is explicit, simple, and solves all of Derby's issues   
    Three parties have made offers, any one of which would allow the club to exit administration with a substantial payment to creditors.
    These offers need clarity, that the claim by Boro and the potential claim by Wycombe do not qualify as Football Creditors.
    The football creditor rule is not defined in the EFL regulations, it is part of the Articles of Association of the Football League Limited, of which all clubs are minority shareholders (the golden share).
    The football creditor rule is in Article 48, which clearly defines what constitutes a football creditor, copied below from Companies House.
    The rule clearly states that it is to cover payments of "debts due". How possibly, can an unproven, unquantified claim such as Boro's be consider a debt due?
    If the EFL is suggesting that any claim by a football club or employee, which is unproven, should be classified as a football creditor it would create mayhem. And, bona fide football creditors with debts due, and other preferential and unsecured creditors would lose out as a result.
    The EFL can't have this both ways. If they choose to say Article 48 does not qualify Boro's claim as a football creditor the EFL are suggesting they might be sued by Boro.
    However, if they choose to say that Article 48 should be interpreted (which is a wild stretch) in a way that Boro should be classed as a football creditor then it is almost certain that the EFL would be sued by the Administrators and the creditors including genuine football creditors, and HMRC for their easily quantified losses. 
    The EFL also risk being sued under section 994 of the companies act for acting prejudicially against the interests of a minority shareholder of the football league ie. DCFC.
    We need to apply pressure on the EFL to get off the fence, see that their actions alone are preventing the Administrators from getting a deal agreed. 
    Article 48 says that Boro's claim cannot be a football creditor and the EFL must state that and stop this nonesense.
    "48         FOOTBALL CREDITORS
    48.1      Where a Member Club defaults in making any payment due to any of the following persons, 
    the Member  Club ('Defaulting  Club')  shall be subject to such penalty  as the Board may decide 
    and subject also to Article 48.2:
    48.1.1        The League, The FA Premier League and the Football Association;
    48.1.2        any of the Pension Schemes;
    48.1.3        any Member Club and any Club of The FA Premier League;
    48.1.4        any holding company  of The League and any subsidiary  company  of that holding 
    company;
    48.1.5        any sums due to any full-time employee or former full-time employee of the Member 
    Club by  way  of arrears  of remuneration  up to the date on which that contract  of employment is 
    terminated. This excludes for these purposes all and any claims for redundancy,   unfair   or  
    wrongful   dismissal   or  other   claims   arising   out   of  the termination  of  the  contract  
    or  in  respect  of  any  period  after  the  actual  date  of termination;
    48.1.6        any  sums  due  to  the  Professional  Footballers  Association  in  repayment  of  
    an interest  free loan together with such reasonable  administration and legal costs as have been 
    approved by the Board;
    48.1.7        The Football Foundation;
    48.1.8        The Football Conference Limited trading as "the National League";
    48.1.9        The Northern Premier League Limited;
    48.1.1O      The Isthmian League Limited;
    48.1.11      The Southern League Limited;
    48.1.12      Any member club of the League or organisations listed in Articles 48.1.8 to 48.1.11 
    inclusive;
    48.1.13      Any County Football Association affiliated to The Football Association; and
    48.1.14      Any Leagues  affiliated to The Football Association  and any clubs affiliated to any 
    County Football Association recognised by The Football Association.
    48.2      Subject to the provisions of Articles 48.3 and 48.4, the Board shall apply any sums 
    standing to the  credit  of  the  Pool  Account  which  would  otherwise  be  payable  to  a  
    Defaulting  Club,  in discharging  the  creditors  in Article  48.1.  As  between  the Football  
    Creditors,  the  priority  for payment shall be in accordance with the order in which those 
    Football Creditors are listed in Article 48.1.
    48.3      If,  having  discharged  all Football  Creditors  in  any  preceding  class  of  Football 
     Creditor  (as
    · required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not suffident to discharge in full the 
    Football Creditors listed in Articles 48.1.1, 48.1.2 or 48.1.4 the Board will decide the 
    allocation.
    48.4      If,  having  discharged  all Football  Creditors  in  any  preceding  class  of  Football 
     Creditor  (as required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not sufficient to discharge in 
    full the Football Creditors listed in Article 48.1.3, 48.1.5, 48.1.12, 48.1.13 or 48.1.14 the sum 
    will be allocated pro rata amongst the creditors of the same class.
    Note - Clubs are reminded that any assignment of future entitlements from the pool account are 
    subject to Article 45 and this must be brought to the attention of the other party. Furthermore 
    assignments must be in legal form and registered with the office. Assignments are given priority 
    according to the date and time of registration."
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to Zag zig in Margaret Beckett on Radio Derby   
    Said twice yesterday when her statement first broke, she’s going to be the one that really digs into the EFL.
    Fair play to all others though, would be great if cross party local support happens. 
     
    Hopefully the meeting with the administrators will deliver some nuggets of the EFL falsehoods they all understand so they can really get into the EFL
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to IslandExile in Petition to the Sports Minister   
    Wow. Nice comment from a fan of the Dirties:
    Im a LUFC fan who knows what its like like many other clubs to feel screwed over by the EFL, Derby have been punished enough, more than enough. Naturally im not the biggest admirer of DCFC but me and millions in the world know how much a club means to a community and someone as historic as Derby to go out of existence would be an embarrassment. MOT 懶 Good luck gentlemen and F the EFL
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to Jase116 in Curtis on Talksport.   
    Loved the fact he's just commented on efl trying to help the club, and he thinks that's laughable ???, that's Curtis banned for the rest of the season for bringing the game into dispute!!! Curtis, your a DCFC legend 
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to Barney1991 in Curtis on Talksport.   
    The dig at efl at end go on Curt ??
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    Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from uttoxram75 in A call to action   
    Someone on Radio Derby mentioned a protest march from The Assembly Rooms to the ground on January 30th the Birmingham home game.
    Anyone got any info?
     
    going into the loft to find me old tank top…………………love a good protest me!
     

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    Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Kathcairns in A call to action   
    Someone on Radio Derby mentioned a protest march from The Assembly Rooms to the ground on January 30th the Birmingham home game.
    Anyone got any info?
     
    going into the loft to find me old tank top…………………love a good protest me!
     

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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to CBRammette in The Mods   
    Just time out to thank the Mods at this time. Cant imagine how difficult it must be to keep on top of the volume of posts also at a time when feelings are running high. Think we'd all be lost without this forum so thank you
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to duncanjwitham in Festy Ebosele   
    Every time a thread gets upped with a players name in the title, I get a little flutter of panic ?
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to ThePrisoner in Petition to the Sports Minister   
    Please all do not pay! This money is not going to DCFC. As noted many times, do not give them your money!
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    Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from YouRams in A call to action   
    Tracey Crouch MP, Chair, Independent Fan-Led Review of Football Governance.
    Writing to the Dept of Culture Media and Sport regards an update on the work of the fan led review.
    The removal of club directors from the Board of the EFL (as recommended in its own earlier governance review) and the National League with both appointing new independent directors would also be a welcome reform. 
    ……………..well I’ll second that luv!
     
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fan-led-review-of-football-governance-interim-findings-and-recommendations
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to angieram in A call to action   
    John has serious clout within commercial circles in Derby.
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to CBRammette in The Administration Thread   
    Is Tracey Crouch your or anyone else on here's MP. Think they can only respond to emails from constituents. The current committee members are as per the attached. Anyone's MP?
    There is an email for the D,C,M& S committee being dcmscom@parliament.uk
    could be next recipient for emails
     
     

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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to RoyMac5 in A call to action   
    It's the future of our Club here, no time for niceties. What exactly was implied?
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    Old Spalding Ram reacted to RoyMac5 in Petition to the Sports Minister   
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