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Old Spalding Ram reacted to mozza in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
Man of the match..
Well said, Sir..
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to StaffsRam in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
Beckett, Perkins and Daley were brilliant. Very proud of our local MPs, but also those from farther afield that supported them.
One thing that is abundantly clear, the EFL as sole arbiters, are finished.
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Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from EtoileSportiveDeDerby in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
Daly contribution at 14:44:31
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to SamUltraRam in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
The Bury MP is at 34 minutes, brutal & brilliant, well said that man
His words should be played on a loop
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to Ramarena in Rob Couhig on Sports Scene at 6
The “victims” are on a charm offensive.
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Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Ellafella in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
Daly contribution at 14:44:31
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Zag zig in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
Daly contribution at 14:44:31
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Black ('n' White) Sheep in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
I’m emailing James Daly MP for Bury North and thanking him for his contribution.
………bit of finger pointing honesty about the EFL!
Daly contribution at 14:44:31
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/bedf5521-3dfe-471b-9e3c-ba77488214db
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to JoetheRam in Urgent Question on DCFC in Parliament
Always knew we were massive.
We've got Covid and Immigration warming the crowd up for us.
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to Day in The Football Creditor rule is explicit, simple, and solves all of Derby's issues
Three parties have made offers, any one of which would allow the club to exit administration with a substantial payment to creditors.
These offers need clarity, that the claim by Boro and the potential claim by Wycombe do not qualify as Football Creditors.
The football creditor rule is not defined in the EFL regulations, it is part of the Articles of Association of the Football League Limited, of which all clubs are minority shareholders (the golden share).
The football creditor rule is in Article 48, which clearly defines what constitutes a football creditor, copied below from Companies House.
The rule clearly states that it is to cover payments of "debts due". How possibly, can an unproven, unquantified claim such as Boro's be consider a debt due?
If the EFL is suggesting that any claim by a football club or employee, which is unproven, should be classified as a football creditor it would create mayhem. And, bona fide football creditors with debts due, and other preferential and unsecured creditors would lose out as a result.
The EFL can't have this both ways. If they choose to say Article 48 does not qualify Boro's claim as a football creditor the EFL are suggesting they might be sued by Boro.
However, if they choose to say that Article 48 should be interpreted (which is a wild stretch) in a way that Boro should be classed as a football creditor then it is almost certain that the EFL would be sued by the Administrators and the creditors including genuine football creditors, and HMRC for their easily quantified losses.
The EFL also risk being sued under section 994 of the companies act for acting prejudicially against the interests of a minority shareholder of the football league ie. DCFC.
We need to apply pressure on the EFL to get off the fence, see that their actions alone are preventing the Administrators from getting a deal agreed.
Article 48 says that Boro's claim cannot be a football creditor and the EFL must state that and stop this nonesense.
"48 FOOTBALL CREDITORS
48.1 Where a Member Club defaults in making any payment due to any of the following persons,
the Member Club ('Defaulting Club') shall be subject to such penalty as the Board may decide
and subject also to Article 48.2:
48.1.1 The League, The FA Premier League and the Football Association;
48.1.2 any of the Pension Schemes;
48.1.3 any Member Club and any Club of The FA Premier League;
48.1.4 any holding company of The League and any subsidiary company of that holding
company;
48.1.5 any sums due to any full-time employee or former full-time employee of the Member
Club by way of arrears of remuneration up to the date on which that contract of employment is
terminated. This excludes for these purposes all and any claims for redundancy, unfair or
wrongful dismissal or other claims arising out of the termination of the contract
or in respect of any period after the actual date of termination;
48.1.6 any sums due to the Professional Footballers Association in repayment of
an interest free loan together with such reasonable administration and legal costs as have been
approved by the Board;
48.1.7 The Football Foundation;
48.1.8 The Football Conference Limited trading as "the National League";
48.1.9 The Northern Premier League Limited;
48.1.1O The Isthmian League Limited;
48.1.11 The Southern League Limited;
48.1.12 Any member club of the League or organisations listed in Articles 48.1.8 to 48.1.11
inclusive;
48.1.13 Any County Football Association affiliated to The Football Association; and
48.1.14 Any Leagues affiliated to The Football Association and any clubs affiliated to any
County Football Association recognised by The Football Association.
48.2 Subject to the provisions of Articles 48.3 and 48.4, the Board shall apply any sums
standing to the credit of the Pool Account which would otherwise be payable to a
Defaulting Club, in discharging the creditors in Article 48.1. As between the Football
Creditors, the priority for payment shall be in accordance with the order in which those
Football Creditors are listed in Article 48.1.
48.3 If, having discharged all Football Creditors in any preceding class of Football
Creditor (as
· required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not suffident to discharge in full the
Football Creditors listed in Articles 48.1.1, 48.1.2 or 48.1.4 the Board will decide the
allocation.
48.4 If, having discharged all Football Creditors in any preceding class of Football
Creditor (as required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not sufficient to discharge in
full the Football Creditors listed in Article 48.1.3, 48.1.5, 48.1.12, 48.1.13 or 48.1.14 the sum
will be allocated pro rata amongst the creditors of the same class.
Note - Clubs are reminded that any assignment of future entitlements from the pool account are
subject to Article 45 and this must be brought to the attention of the other party. Furthermore
assignments must be in legal form and registered with the office. Assignments are given priority
according to the date and time of registration."
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to Rev in The Football Creditor rule is explicit, simple, and solves all of Derby's issues
Who wrote that for you?
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to Zag zig in Margaret Beckett on Radio Derby
Said twice yesterday when her statement first broke, she’s going to be the one that really digs into the EFL.
Fair play to all others though, would be great if cross party local support happens.
Hopefully the meeting with the administrators will deliver some nuggets of the EFL falsehoods they all understand so they can really get into the EFL
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to IslandExile in Petition to the Sports Minister
Wow. Nice comment from a fan of the Dirties:
Im a LUFC fan who knows what its like like many other clubs to feel screwed over by the EFL, Derby have been punished enough, more than enough. Naturally im not the biggest admirer of DCFC but me and millions in the world know how much a club means to a community and someone as historic as Derby to go out of existence would be an embarrassment. MOT 懶 Good luck gentlemen and F the EFL
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to Jase116 in Curtis on Talksport.
Loved the fact he's just commented on efl trying to help the club, and he thinks that's laughable ???, that's Curtis banned for the rest of the season for bringing the game into dispute!!! Curtis, your a DCFC legend
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Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from uttoxram75 in A call to action
Someone on Radio Derby mentioned a protest march from The Assembly Rooms to the ground on January 30th the Birmingham home game.
Anyone got any info?
going into the loft to find me old tank top…………………love a good protest me!
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Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from Kathcairns in A call to action
Someone on Radio Derby mentioned a protest march from The Assembly Rooms to the ground on January 30th the Birmingham home game.
Anyone got any info?
going into the loft to find me old tank top…………………love a good protest me!
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to CBRammette in The Mods
Just time out to thank the Mods at this time. Cant imagine how difficult it must be to keep on top of the volume of posts also at a time when feelings are running high. Think we'd all be lost without this forum so thank you
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to duncanjwitham in Festy Ebosele
Every time a thread gets upped with a players name in the title, I get a little flutter of panic ?
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to ThePrisoner in Petition to the Sports Minister
Please all do not pay! This money is not going to DCFC. As noted many times, do not give them your money!
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Old Spalding Ram got a reaction from YouRams in A call to action
Tracey Crouch MP, Chair, Independent Fan-Led Review of Football Governance.
Writing to the Dept of Culture Media and Sport regards an update on the work of the fan led review.
The removal of club directors from the Board of the EFL (as recommended in its own earlier governance review) and the National League with both appointing new independent directors would also be a welcome reform.
……………..well I’ll second that luv!
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fan-led-review-of-football-governance-interim-findings-and-recommendations
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to angieram in A call to action
John has serious clout within commercial circles in Derby.
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to CBRammette in The Administration Thread
Is Tracey Crouch your or anyone else on here's MP. Think they can only respond to emails from constituents. The current committee members are as per the attached. Anyone's MP?
There is an email for the D,C,M& S committee being dcmscom@parliament.uk
could be next recipient for emails
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Old Spalding Ram reacted to RoyMac5 in A call to action
It's the future of our Club here, no time for niceties. What exactly was implied?
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