darren22

After all our woes, I'd not have wished that on anyone.
Except...

Bet they loved the EFL when we sold Shinnie for 30k to cover Jagielkas wage till May.  Then we were told we couldn't keep him, whilst they were allowed to change their management team, resign Carroll and bring in 4 loans.  Bet they loved em when they were allowed to bring in 5 players at the start of this season as well. 

I've been on the lash all day in Belper so bear with...not a punch or a kick thrown 😉
Were there innocents hurt...yes there was, Far too many that weren't reported as it was a common occurrence, Heysel, Hillsboro, Bradford saw some horrendous deaths due to Fans, Police and old stadia...who's to blame?
Danny Dyer oh please...a manufactured programme to put him in the limelight of being a "hard case" there were a good few from the Neptune who didn't want the DLF on his programme but some of the more high profile DLF crowd won the day...it was embarrassing...imo. Books were written of embellished journeys through the lives of "football hooligans" the Brimsons from Watford were the 1st to put pen to paper, They looked the part but as they say "the pen is mightier than the sword" both a pair of fantasists. 
Life is not worth losing for a game of football...it's mind boggling that this could happen, But lives are lost every weekend in towns up and down the Country...age teaches you one thing...to learn and listen to others, What happened 30-40-50 years ago through football was something we did as others did, Nothing to be proud or ashamed of it was a life that some chose to follow.
I'll end with this...I loved the 70s-80s made so many friends that you could re float the Titanic with them all, Today...I'm just an old fella that's still has his memories...and I'll share them with anyone who would like to hear them.
Enjoy your weekend of what's left...I will ☺️   

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Well that wasn’t worth freezing my tits off for but at least I can say I got to an EFL Trophy game this season to go with my game last season although this was nowhere near as enjoyable as our win over Grimsby (my last EFL trophy game). I viewed this as a real opportunity to get to Wembley and I’m bitterly disappointed we haven’t grasped it. However, I sincerely hope this is the last ever EFL trophy game we ever play and I’m pleased we can now fully focus on the league.
So many weren’t at it tonight, thought Sonny did ok, along with Nelson Wilson cash when he came on and Collo, everyone else may as well have not been there. Thommo Sibs and Fornah didn’t grasp their opportunity although thought it was slightly harsh on Sibs to be subbed, thought he was at least trying to make things happen. 
I have serious concerns about Ward Fornah and Vickers. Not sure they are good enough.

Ward is a wannabe David Beckham, can’t defend or tackle, no pace no trick likes the Hollywood cross but 9 times out of 10 straight into the keepers arms. Predictable, not dangerous.
Vickers looks very uncertain, he flaps I worry about his positional sense he’s dodgy playing out from the back and he even makes simple saves look Hollywood. Maybe Warne wanted him to bring a bit more Disney to the team. Not for me. Get Wildsmith back in ASAP.
Fornah is a real enigma. Technically and athletically brilliant, that tackle pirouette run and pass in the first half was a thing of beauty. However despite strength and power he can get pushed off the ball easily, his positional discipline tonight was horrific,  and whenever he made a tackle or a pass he then stops ball comes back to him and he’s on his heels leading him to get beaten to the ball or closed down to the point where he’s forced to tackle, misplace a pass or pass backwards. Really poor and playing like that I can’t see any way he gets into the team.
Hope we react positively to this and continue our form in the league and this will be quickly forgotten but please Derby, get promoted never come back here and never play in this godforsaken competition ever again.

We have already been given a penalty of having to watch this tosh.

I thought I'd start a new thread as it was starting to get discussed in the watchable telly thread.
I haven't watched the ITV drama yet but I will.
I was aware of the story, but not especially as it happened when we were living in the US and I had no clue it ran into hundreds of people with each one being told nobody else had other issues.
This is looking like the biggest scandal/cover-up of our time with a lot of people complicit. I hope the duckers who ok'ed this at the highest level get sent down.
 

I do feel bad for their fans though. Especially the ones who tried to start a fight with me and my 70 year old dad at Derby station, while we were minding our own business eating our chips.
Wait. No I don't.

The best possible outcome for this season is for them to make *another* terrible appointment, and get relegated with us going up.
Then we can all have a party...

Was pretty hacked off with the way he conducted himself under Cocu, but he did redeem himself with me after that being an absolute rock for the club through some very dark times. As such, I bear the man no ill will really, far from it. That said, watching Brum implode has been hilarious, which on reflection, only serves to make me appreciate Wazza even more.
On a serious note, management clearly does not suit him in any shape or fashion, he looks terrible and is aging rapidly. High time he stepped back, minded himself a bit and spent some time with the family, I reckon.

I'll always appreciate the way Rooney conducted himself in that administration season (in public at least), and I don't really begrudge him leaving when he did because it was always going to be a tough sell to him to stay on.
However,
This is very funny. Mostly because it's Birmingham City who in my view are one of the most deluded, bitter, tinpot, nonsense clubs in the footballing pyramid. Permanently trapped in their nearest rivals shadow and utterly deluded as to their standing in the game. A crumbling stadium half full with idiot fans.
So, thank you agent Rooney for the top tier destroy and exit job. Excellent work.

Personally I like Steve Bloomer's Watching. I agree with many of the problems you've highlighted with the song, but I like that we have our own song about club legend rather than recycling other clubs' chants or crap pop songs. The idea that a f****** U2 guitar riff of all things would inspire or intimidate anyone is unbelievably quaint.

Oxford definitely the architect of their own downfall. They put it in neutral and whacked on the handbrake after 15 mins and couldn’t get it into first for the remainder of the game. That said, we obviously didn’t let them either. We remained patient. Brilliant end to it. 

Ego, Narcissism call it what you like, He spunked millions on high profile people one a proven manager two who wanted to give it a go, Lampard came with Uncle Harrys blessing and it nearly paid off...then pretty boy fecked off to good old London Town leaving us in a mess, Cocu picked up the pieces but unfortunately trying to make a team out of bits n bobs proved hopeless, Rooney pushed his way in with the help of Stretford his manager, Houdini, Paul Daniels and Tommy Cooper couldn't help us by then, MM saw the writing all over PPs walls, Covid killed him, Nowt coming in and millions going out.
He prayed that he could sell to any Rag Tag and Bobtail that would stick around long enough to show they had millions in an offshore bank account, Courting wanna be buyers...any buyers as DCFC became a busted flush, Finally he bailed, He walked out of the Casino with hunched shoulders and empty pockets...picked up a free sandwich on his way out and home to Sandy Banks on the South Coast.
I guess he gave us a little hope, But there's posters who have come and gone on here that know the story better than me, Just an old boy that's seen the glory days...but just glad there's still a Derby County ☺️
 
    

Is there a law against not rating a manager? I'm not a fan of Southgate for what it's worth, some really rate him and think he's achieved stuff with England. By all means disagree with my opinion, but tell me why, not what you think of me!
I don't rate Warne's management style and that will not change unless he does. I do enjoy Derby winning, so that's all there is to it.

Not forgetting the state of the art white elephant that is the Waste Treatment Plant in Sinfin where the Council/s have to pay £93m to a firm 🙄

I found that very frustrating.
Trying to get players sent off by feigning injury is pathetic in my opinion. It’s a shame Collins didn’t just go over to him and do him over and actually give him a reason to writhe about on the floor. in my opinion the referee was all about proving to the premier league that she won’t be swayed by the home crowd and as a consequence gave us nothing. The way Taylor completely ignored her and brushed her aside when told to go off towards the East Stand shows that she didn’t have control.
That being said we ultimately didn’t win against a really poor team because we were crap, ponderous in possession and lacked any sort of plan. Too many didn’t turn up. Too many showed why they play in the 3rd division. A very disappointing and frustrating afternoon. 
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Very angry and frustrated tonight!! Genuinely thought we’d done it with a scrappy 1-0 when not at our best playing a team of anti-footballers, then the penalty, right in front of me, absolutely no way in my view, she looked at the Lino who didn’t give then pointed to the spot anyway. I agree with those saying it’s a 2023 penalty but I’d also say it’s one that VAR would give one week then not give it the next. It was extremely soft but then poor defending from Ward and not for the first time today. 
 
As for Rebecca Welch, this is the third time she’s reffed us. She was excellent the first time, good the second, horrendous today. Managed the game really poorly making a rod for her own back with those early nonsensical yellow cards for Sibley and Mendez-Laing. The Collins Leahy (who is a proper Bamford by the way) handbags could’ve avoided 2 bookings easily, there were two challenges after then on Derby players which were stonewall yellow cards not given, ironically when the crowd shouted you don’t know what you’re doing after the Bird yellow, that decision was spot on, it was the poor decisions prior that contributed to ruining the game. The only time she was consistent was booking vokes for the same offence as Sibley, which then left her a problem when he booted a Derby player in the face, she could’ve easily sent Vokes off for two bookings but that would’ve been a bad call IMO. Genuinely thought she was a class act but take it all back after today, she’s as useless as the usual rabble of officials we get week in week out at this level. Definitely no worse, we’ve had worse refs this season. 
 
Thought we tried to play today but the players weren’t quite at it. Wildsmith Cashin Ward Hourihane Sibley all below par. Ward I thought really struggled and I’m surprised he stayed on.
Still unbeaten in 6, we were never going to win 10-12 in a row which we would need to do to get the results we want over Christmas and New Year where maximum points will be really useful to us. A win on Thursday sets us up nicely for some tricky Christmas fixtures.
 
 

Was refering to geescreamer about our bookings so maybe hes wrong as well and our resident uriah rennie is nailed nailed on with it … but i doubt it 
barks .. former pro didnt have any complaints with any of them either 
pen.. its soft as … i get why people say its not but it just is in todays game 
crap i know 
my issue is how we got to that stage
cheap turnover of the ball (again) 
lost the flick on, got caught wrong side
literally summarised todays performance  in about 20 seconds 

That performance was atrocious. Can blame the ref all you want (I think she got all the calls right), but we were pathetic. It was a lack of effort. Probably 6/7 of that starting 11 should be hung out to dry for that first half.

Anyway. Goal aside, that performance was absolutely dire.

Wasnt mate
stone wall pen
literally summarised our performance today slack, casual and not good enough  
so much of todays performance was literally utter s*** 

I would happily have taken the position we are in a week before christmas, 3 points off automatic promotion back in August.
Plenty of room for improvement but winning is a nice habit and confidence will give us an extra boost going into the next few games.
We won't win them all, we will lose one or two soon enough but thats when you need to go on another run. The other teams wont win every game either.
Its all to play for, enjoy it! Look forward to a proper scrap for those top 2 positions over the coming weeks and months.
COYR
 

I'd like to see further action for that. It's assault. Any player should receive a 6-month ban. Outside of a football pitch, you're looking at a criminal record.

Scumbag move. Knew exactly what he was doing and deservedly got a red card.